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OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot

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Re: OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot

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Is 110 million parameters really a "large" language model though? Especially since the models gain novel skills as they scale up.

So if a new model is trained with 10x parameters of gpt3, is gpt now no longer an llm?

Nah, the new ones can just be called Xllms.

Then we can just keep adding Xs every generation.

Re: OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot

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post #102

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Presumably the same is true for social engineering people - the original "prompt hacking"? I've had customer service interactions that didn't go the way I wanted, hung up, and tried again with a friendlier person. Not sure how "binding" most customer service promises are either - have you ever had to call Comcast? Broken promises are the only promises. Also, if you can lower your customer service costs by 90%, maybe…

> Not sure how "binding" most customer service promises are either - have you ever had to call Comcast? Broken promises are the only promises. For literally fun and profit, record your customer service calls with $FACELESS_CORP (for bonus points tell the customer service rep it’s for “quality assurance purposes”). I haven’t yet had the joy of playing one back to get them to uphold a verbal agreement. The mere threat…

there is also this stupid old tech way of just politely asking for any promise in writing, ask them to send a follow up email or you send one “as discussed on the phone this and that - do you confirm”

But I never dealt with Comcast so i don’t know maybe have too much faith in customer support in general.

Re: OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot

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Tell me a scenario where that is true that isn't from a contrived institution like K-12.

Never been in the military I’m guessing… Plenty of times there were jobs to be done that had nothing at all to do with the work but with the people doing the work. Almost always, unless the higher leadership got involved, this was the punishment for whatever stupid thing someone got caught doing. Technically not extra duty (which was a formal punishment) but just some random shit job like polishing a trash can to a s…

>Never been in the military I’m guessing… No, I haven't but a lot of my family and friends have. I do understand though, my great uncle Don used to make my dad and uncle move a cord of wood to one side of the fence one day, and then the next day he'd say "what'dya do that for? Move it back!" then wink at his wife. As a Norwegian Lutheran immigrant, the prevailing attitude was "We can't let those boys have idle hands", and they all went along with it. Don came over and landed in Idaho where he found work as a lumberjack. He got paid based on his output and took it upon himself to chop down a whole forest by hand, as legend goes. Anyway, the dude went hard, made a ton of money, and was able to use that to own a bunch of successful businesses and stuff. He wasn't going to let those kids miss out.

All that said, and while I see its importance, I was saying 'important' work to refer to things that wouldn't be if the person didn't do it themselves. Like if I'm being trained to write, it wouldn't have much value at all unless I was the one doing the writing. At the end of the day, it never mattered where the logs were.

I'm coming from a place where it really doesn't matter to me or my team as to what tools, techniques, or languages are used, so long as it solves we're all okay with owning the results of that approach. It is absolutely unimportant to bash your head against the wall to solve some concurrency lock issue, not when you haven't shipped, not when your infra is already built for parallelism. But let's say that you need a lock for business logic to work, synchronous transactions aren't viable. When something (such as concurrency) does matter, the business still doesn't care how its implemented. It is important that it implements the business logic correctly, consistently, and can evolve with the business' priorities in a way that future engineers are able to implement them safely, even promptly. Assuming all stands of Quality are met or exceeded, it is irrational for me and unfair for the business to reject it. IDGAFF if it came from a CoPilot/ChatGPT response, offshore salary triage, or some other 'crime against society' that I haven't heard of. If an engineer isn't handing in quality work, then we need to dig into why that's happening. Its usually not because of a tool.

Re: OpenAI's Foundry leaked pricing says a lot

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post #200

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Shocking that you are able to even get investors with such a crude view on how business works. Starting an ancillary business related to one product that is not even your own IP or core competency is just lightweight consultancy, not a start up.

I would have thought the goal of sharecropping on OpenAI's land was to build a product that OpenAI would eventually acquire.

The product is entirely just OpenAI. IMO they would only be in the acquisition part to acquire the customer base, nothing about the product. But then they couldn't have another company paying to do the same thing. Why acquire one portfolio when you have _n_ companies paying them to offer same thing to others.
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