In the article I see no mention of accelerometers. Can one get nearly the same effect on mobile merely using these and not using the camera?
Could we make the web more immersive using a simple optical illusion?
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Re: Could we make the web more immersive using a simple optical illusion?
#242It's ironic that 15 years later, the latency between the movement of the camera and the targets has only got bigger (original video vs the first one in the "Final prototype" section).
To be fair, they're running it entirely in a web browser using only software with no specialized hardware.
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#243Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a relatively invasive technique that requires a computer's camera to record details of a person's face, and that's marketable data that any commercial shopping site would likely collect and sell on to other parties. It'd be much simpler to implement arrow key / spacebar navigation through a 3D scene (still computationally expensive relative to rendering the standard HTML/CSS/JS page), but then that data couldn't…
Couldn’t this sort of thing be built into the browser which could then just expose an API for head orientation and eye position without any privacy invading details?
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#244Imagine, for example, opening your favorite brand’s website and being presented with a miniature virtual storefront. You could look at their most popular products as if you were standing on a sidewalk peering into their shop. I imagined this as instructed as was simultaneously bored and depressed. Why does it always have to be about shopping.
The blog we are reading right now is Shopify's blog, so I have a theory. Another interesting question is "Why is shopify's blog the place talking about this, instead of somewhere else?" I remember that demo... it was amazing and then it did go nowhere. With modern face recognition and tracking, it should be entirely possible to use it for some nifty no-touch experiences.
tbh I gave up reading after the bit I quoted and hadnt actually clocked it was a Shopify blog (didnt spot the little icon in the corner or look at the url)
Still, I stand by my refrain "Why does it always have to be about shopping" as a refrain that is rarely out of place
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#245I can certainly agree with that, it's a real solid brusspup[0]-level illusion... but I'm not sure what to do with that, practically speaking, beyond "oh that looks cool." It kind makes me wonder whether my standards for 'immersive' are significantly different than theirs.
[0] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeQEKFH31vvD-InkTGSvCrA
Re: Could we make the web more immersive using a simple optical illusion?
#246Imagine, for example, opening your favorite brand’s website and being presented with a miniature virtual storefront. You could look at their most popular products as if you were standing on a sidewalk peering into their shop. I imagined this as instructed as was simultaneously bored and depressed. Why does it always have to be about shopping.
The blog we are reading right now is Shopify's blog, so I have a theory. Another interesting question is "Why is shopify's blog the place talking about this, instead of somewhere else?" I remember that demo... it was amazing and then it did go nowhere. With modern face recognition and tracking, it should be entirely possible to use it for some nifty no-touch experiences.
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#247Earlier quoted context omitted.
The New Nintendo 3DS was based around this, and although they abandoned it I think there's still a lot of room for something like it. It's more AR than AR is.
The 3DS don’t do head tracking, it was a real 3D display that displayed a unique image to each of your eyes.
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#248Earlier quoted context omitted.
Minimal "flat" UIs are possible for normal people to implement. In the 2000s I had no idea how I was supposed to make a button that looks like it's made of drop shadows and fine Corinthian leather for a project in my free time. (For that matter I don't know how I'd get it done for a professional project either.)
Why not use the system default controls and not reïnvent the wheel?
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#249A couple of 3D display products are coming this year: https://www.leiainc.com/newsroom/reservations-open-for-world... and https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/01/asus-new-16-inch-wor... . As my username might suggest, I’m excited! I hope they become less niche with time.
Toshiba and HTC had this around 2011 when the mobile OSes were really bad with no updates available, phones produced by HW companies like Toshiba who had no idea on how to support sich HW software-wise. Even the Laptop 3D screen's drivers used to break with the next larger Windows update.
So I'm happy to see these devices return. I hadn't thought that this would happen anytime soon. However, theses are integrated devices again. Bit afraid that the support will be as short-lived as back then.
We haven't kept our FHD 3D TVs for the same absence of updated 3D TVs. But these have unified interfaces at least (Packed HMDI Stereo and SBS or TOB for normal HDMI). So maybe a standard external devices might make more sense than those integrated tablets and laptops.
Time to charge my Fuji Real3D cams once again, I guess.
Re: Could we make the web more immersive using a simple optical illusion?
#250Imagine, for example, opening your favorite brand’s website and being presented with a miniature virtual storefront. You could look at their most popular products as if you were standing on a sidewalk peering into their shop. I imagined this as instructed as was simultaneously bored and depressed. Why does it always have to be about shopping.
It's a relatively invasive technique that requires a computer's camera to record details of a person's face, and that's marketable data that any commercial shopping site would likely collect and sell on to other parties. It'd be much simpler to implement arrow key / spacebar navigation through a 3D scene (still computationally expensive relative to rendering the standard HTML/CSS/JS page), but then that data couldn't…