Zag Smalltalk [video]

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Post by sebastianconcpt » Thu, Mar 02, 2023, 4:13 PM UTC

Zag Smalltalk [video]
youtube.com

Re: Zag Smalltalk [video]

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Post by imglorp » Sat, Mar 04, 2023, 2:05 PM UTC

https://github.com/dvmason/Zag-Smalltalk/blob/main/Documenta...

Re: Zag Smalltalk [video]

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Post by marvel_boy » Sat, Mar 04, 2023, 4:06 PM UTC

I miss Smalltak so much ! Was the first serious language I learnt, playing with it was incredible.

Re: Zag Smalltalk [video]

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Post by butterisgood » Sat, Mar 04, 2023, 5:54 PM UTC

marvel_boy wrote: post #3

I miss Smalltak so much ! Was the first serious language I learnt, playing with it was incredible.

Mess with Pharo?

Re: Zag Smalltalk [video]

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Post by trh0awayman » Sat, Mar 04, 2023, 6:00 PM UTC

marvel_boy wrote: post #3

I miss Smalltak so much ! Was the first serious language I learnt, playing with it was incredible.

If you're willing to boot to Windows, Dolphin Smalltalk is the best modern day version. It's great fun to play with and easy to make native tools.

Re: Zag Smalltalk [video]

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Post by znpy » Sat, Mar 04, 2023, 7:14 PM UTC

butterisgood wrote: post #4

marvel_boy wrote: post #3

I miss Smalltak so much ! Was the first serious language I learnt, playing with it was incredible.

Mess with Pharo?

I messed with pharo in summer 2022 while on vacation.

It looks featureful on the outside but when you look a bit deeper it shows that either sone libraries are half-done or completely rotting inside.

Re: Zag Smalltalk [video]

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Post by spindle » Sat, Mar 04, 2023, 7:22 PM UTC

znpy wrote: post #6

butterisgood wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mess with Pharo?

I messed with pharo in summer 2022 while on vacation. It looks featureful on the outside but when you look a bit deeper it shows that either sone libraries are half-done or completely rotting inside.

Cuis Smalltalk fixes that problem (at the expense of having fewer libraries):

https://cuis.st/

Re: Zag Smalltalk [video]

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Post by melvinroest » Sat, Mar 04, 2023, 7:36 PM UTC

znpy wrote: post #6

butterisgood wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mess with Pharo?

I messed with pharo in summer 2022 while on vacation. It looks featureful on the outside but when you look a bit deeper it shows that either sone libraries are half-done or completely rotting inside.

Could you give some more concrete examples? I'm curious as to what you mean. I've worked with Pharo but not with other Smalltalks.

Re: Zag Smalltalk [video]

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Post by znpy » Sat, Mar 04, 2023, 8:07 PM UTC

melvinroest wrote: post #8

znpy wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I messed with pharo in summer 2022 while on vacation. It looks featureful on the outside but when you look a bit deeper it shows that either sone libraries are half-done or completely rotting inside.

Could you give some more concrete examples? I'm curious as to what you mean. I've worked with Pharo but not with other Smalltalks.

I remember trying to play with a web framework (z something?) but it felt half baked and the documentation was fairly lacking, for example.

Re: Zag Smalltalk [video]

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Post by znpy » Sat, Mar 04, 2023, 8:10 PM UTC

spindle wrote: post #7

znpy wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I messed with pharo in summer 2022 while on vacation. It looks featureful on the outside but when you look a bit deeper it shows that either sone libraries are half-done or completely rotting inside.

Cuis Smalltalk fixes that problem (at the expense of having fewer libraries): https://cuis.st/

I am not sure if I’d prefer fewer libraries (of alleged higher quality) or more libraries in a rotting state.

To be completely honesty if I had to pick a smalltalk to start messing again I’d pick pharo again to go with the most popular implementation.