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Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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You didn’t say anything about your financial and substance [ab]use. Seems like you don’t know if what you’re doing is what you want and your GF broke up with you. The latter is nothing. You’re 28; I’m 30. You got decades ahead of you.

You’re lucky this happened to you right now and not after marriage and with kids.

If you don’t have your own self, there’s no point in holding on to relationships. They will eventually decay. Go to the gym, walk, run, play, meditate. Get your own house in order before worrying about relationships. Get a therapist.

Btw this ain’t nothing from rock bottom. I’m assuming you aren’t a burn out. I’m assuming your SO didn’t try to have you thrown off the stairs and kill you.

Tell yourself that you are lucky this happened now and you survived

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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I'd agree with some other comments here that you are pretty far away from rock bottom. Rock bottom is a complete dismantling of your life. Failed relationships (romantic, friendly, professional, etc), lost job, bills piling up, apartment a disaster, inability to build a mental model that can cope with your current situation. It looks more like you're in a relative minimum. From what I understand about psychology a he…

> I'd agree with some other comments here that you are pretty far away from rock bottom.

“Rock bottom” is whatever negative experience is sufficient to get you to volubtarily rethink and commit to changing the life choices that produced that experience. It's where you personally decide to draw the line, not some objective maximum acheivable misery.

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

#23
> I also don't have a large social circle, and some of my friends are scattered internationally.

I bet you have a larger social circle than you think. I recently got invited to the wedding of a friend I hadn't heard from in years. We all have these friend-seeds, people whose name we know but whose bio is somewhat unknown, apart from whatever gave you their name. People who've been in the same boat as you at some stage in your life, but you didn't find the time to talk for whatever reason.

Like plant seeds, they can last for years and still be viable.

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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Therapy is a good idea, but be sure to get the right therapist. Trust your instincts: if you don't think this person is right, now is the time to change.

Huge +1 to this. It sounds like they may need to switch therapists. I’ve had personal success with therapists that have expertise in CBT, DBT, and IFS.

OP may also want to explore mindfulness/meditation, which has been a huge QoL improvement for me.

Some resources I’ve found helpful: - Book: Adult children of emotionally immature parents - Book: How to meditate by Pema Chodron - Website on DBT: https://dbtselfhelp.com/ - Book: The Antidote: Happiness for people who can’t stand positive thinking - Meditation Apps: Waking Up, Headspace, Ten Percent. Also, if you don’t like one, try another. They all have distinct styles.

Seriously though, do therapy and hop therapists until one clicks. I read on here once “you can’t read the label from inside the bottle.” This type of work significantly benefits from a good outside perspective.

Also, OP, be kind to yourself and, as another poster said, allow yourself to just exist for a bit

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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post #13

I'd agree with some other comments here that you are pretty far away from rock bottom. Rock bottom is a complete dismantling of your life. Failed relationships (romantic, friendly, professional, etc), lost job, bills piling up, apartment a disaster, inability to build a mental model that can cope with your current situation. It looks more like you're in a relative minimum. From what I understand about psychology a he…

> I'd agree with some other comments here that you are pretty far away from rock bottom. “Rock bottom” is whatever negative experience is sufficient to get you to volubtarily rethink and commit to changing the life choices that produced that experience. It's where you personally decide to draw the line, not some objective maximum acheivable misery.

Sounds like a local minima, not ‘drinking yourself to death in a foreign country where you don’t speak the language while everyone thinks you’re dead’, which is more what I associate the phrase with hah.

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

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post #13

I'd agree with some other comments here that you are pretty far away from rock bottom. Rock bottom is a complete dismantling of your life. Failed relationships (romantic, friendly, professional, etc), lost job, bills piling up, apartment a disaster, inability to build a mental model that can cope with your current situation. It looks more like you're in a relative minimum. From what I understand about psychology a he…

> I'd agree with some other comments here that you are pretty far away from rock bottom. “Rock bottom” is whatever negative experience is sufficient to get you to volubtarily rethink and commit to changing the life choices that produced that experience. It's where you personally decide to draw the line, not some objective maximum acheivable misery.

Personally, yes. Outside in, not really. If you've broken up with your GF, think life is shite and that's your rock bottom, then yeah you've reached your rock bottom. The floor where you tow it.

However, I disagree and would agree that rock bottom in essence is where where the maximum achievable misery has been met. If life is a ladder, your still on that ladder, you can still progress. All you've done is fallen and experienced life in reality; you can grow from and continue.

If your not attached to the bottom peg, your at the bottom of the ladder with nothing but yourself, you've reached rock bottom. Being homeless is rock bottom.

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

#27

That’s not rock bottom. Shooting up drugs in the street is rock bottom.

thats the spirit!

No matter how bad you think things are, they can ALWAYS get worse. :-D

This is actually one of the things that drives me forward.

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

#28
I would ignore the comments that tell you it's not rock bottom. They won't be satisfied unless you are near-death at the bottom of the ocean.

My advice is, watch the episode of Seinfeld where George Costanza does the opposite. If every instinct he has is wrong, then the opposite must be right.

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

#29

Listen to "Pink Floyd: Coming Back to Life" -- especially the live Pulse version, with an older Gilmour singing. The words "where were you, when I was burnt and broken?" never rang closer. It allowed me to pull myself together slowly. EDIT: here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYh1O3NIU7Q

Yep. Times like this actually make certain music hit so much better. Listen to Pink Floyd. But also check out old blues - Howlin Wolf, Ledbetter, Willie Dixon, Elmore James, Robert Johnson, Son House, Elizabeth Cotten, etc. Even/especially Stevie Ray Vaughan.

Re: Ask HN: How did you rebuild yourself after having hit rock bottom?

#30
Hello internet friend,

As others have mentioned, you are arguably not as close to rock bottom as one can be. I hit rock bottom when I lost my home, my job, my ability to walk, was on assistance and bought my groceries with food stamps. How I got to rock bottom is a story for a meeting.

I found solace in recovery. Recovery is different for everyone as is rock bottom. Therefore if you feel you've lost more than you were willing to and you're at a precipice of a major life change that will bring you up out from the bottom, or you'll find rock bottom can even be lower than your realize. Again, what that means is going to be different for everyone, but if you have a need that you must change something in order to be better, then you already know what to do. Obviously if you're addicted to heroin, that change would be sobriety and recovery.

I'm not trying to give you answers as those are things you're going to have to figure out for yourself.

You've been around for three decades and been adulting for less than one. You've got at least 4 more decades to define yourself and your life. The best part is, you are the director, producer and actor in how that future pans out.

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