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Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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Linux 2013: Sleep support doesn’t work quite yet, but it’s being worked on right now Linux 2023: Sleep support doesn’t work quite yet, but it’s being worked on right now

You can thank Microsoft for the current mess. S0ix (aka "Modern Standby") doesn't even work right on Windows.

Linux Laptops with no S3 support use S2, not S0 as on Windows. Still buggy as hell. My XPS sometimes loses 70% in 4 hours standby and then just ~5% in 2 days of standby. Most of the time the battery drain is insane. At least the overheating in bag issue never occured to me.

Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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Agreed, a 1080p or 1440p screen with good pixel-sharp graphics (which Mac OS does not provide, leaving you with blurry anti-aliasing) is all you need. 4K resolution is overkill.

the 1440p screen on my macbook looks incredible on macOS. Apple has been on top of the font rendering game for a long time now

Because you use a 1st party screen. It's like saying "Linux doesn't have any problems, look at my Pixel phone". Try multiple 3rd-party ones that aren't recommended by Apple and you'll see where the problem lies.

Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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When I saw "ARM64 Linux Workstation" I immediately thought of my raspberry pi 4 at home (arm64). Kind of annoying really, you'd be surprised at the number of developer tool projects that only publish amd64, and I can't watch netflix without bending over backwards. I haven't gotten widevine to work on it yet :(

At least you have the option, since there are armv7 widevine binaries. Can't run those on M1.

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I cannot wait for Linux to be fully usable on my Apple Silicon MBP. That is going to be such a killer environment to develop on. Crazy fast hardware, great high refresh screen, insane battery life, fantastic touchpad, gestures and keyboard. There is the potential that Windows games could run on it with some combination of x86 translation and Proton. Using MacOS on it feels like I have a ferrari with square wheels. Wa…

> Using MacOS on it feels like I have a ferrari with square wheels. Indeed macOS is the weakest part when working on Apple Silicon. Sure it’s quite pretty but it stumbles over itself with terrible quality of life features. macOS looks modern but feels around ten years behind other desktops now. Apple love to talk about how professionals and power users can get so much work done with the amazing Apple Silicon but igno…

> Honestly who at Apple signed off on Stage Manager before basic window snapping?!

My money is that the iPad team are steering a lot of these decisions as part of a broader strategy to converge their desktop and mobile platforms.

Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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I don't get the hype around apple silicon for desktop computers. I sort of understand the power efficiency argument for laptops (although it is often overstated IMO, I could work for >10h straight with my X1 carbon 6 years ago), but for Desktop it is trivial to build a PC that runs significantly faster, with much more upgradability and flexibility for a fraction of the price. So if I want performance on a Linux syste…

Are you making use of Cunningham's Law?

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A comparable m1 is twice as fast in the above benchmarks? And that’s Apple’s chip from 2 years ago! Core for core this is a dog.

Surely if you consider apple hardware you don't care about performance, price or supporting an ecosystem that underpins the very essence of you are trying to do. Buying mac hardware for a linux workstation is madness.

I really would like someone else to put out something competitive in that case, I’m rooting for them but haven’t seen it yet.

Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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I cannot wait for Linux to be fully usable on my Apple Silicon MBP. That is going to be such a killer environment to develop on. Crazy fast hardware, great high refresh screen, insane battery life, fantastic touchpad, gestures and keyboard. There is the potential that Windows games could run on it with some combination of x86 translation and Proton. Using MacOS on it feels like I have a ferrari with square wheels. Wa…

"Using MacOS on it feels like I have a ferrari with square wheels."

LOL. There was a time when mac/macos was the premium choice for a development environment, but I think that time has gone. Apple spent too much focus on iOS.

Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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> 8 hours on a M1 Macbook, so that's better than most/all x86 laptops with Linux It is makes no sense to compare an $1k/$2k M1 Macbook with random laptops. Those laptops exist because people want to run MS Word or Excel for $400. That's the feature. Various System76 laptops, Thinkpads (among many other laptops recommended by Linux users) give you battery life comparable to macOS on the M1.

I keep hearing about battery life being just as almost just as good or better on linux (and on Windows too, though that's a more realistic claim). Yet even the latest gens thinkpads are pretty awful w.r.t battery. My friend bought an i5 12xxx Thinkpad X1 and can barely do 5 or 6 hours of screen on time, when the stated capacity is 16h. Lenovo denied a refund, because it's working as intended according to them (and my…

Just a sample size of 1, but my HP ProBook 430 G3 (6th gen i5) could comfortably hit 8 hours of battery life, or beyond 10 on light tasks - before the battery went kaput unfortunately. However it was the “large battery” variant with I think a 40 or 50ish Wh capacity on a 13” screen.

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Point me at a processor as good as the M1 and I'll buy it

Define good? An AMD Ryzen 7 6900HS has similar single-core performance, much better multi-core performance for slightly worse power efficiency, compared to an M2. Add in the added advantage of flexibility (you can buy different hardware and switch it up like add RAM and disk and GPUs to your liking) and the fact you can run more things on it (e.g. game), and it's pretty "good". Is it better than an M2? Depends on wha…

slightly worse power efficiency is a slight understatement ;)

Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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I don't get the hype around apple silicon for desktop computers. I sort of understand the power efficiency argument for laptops (although it is often overstated IMO, I could work for >10h straight with my X1 carbon 6 years ago), but for Desktop it is trivial to build a PC that runs significantly faster, with much more upgradability and flexibility for a fraction of the price. So if I want performance on a Linux syste…

What if you don't want to build a PC and a need for ARM64 (lets say at work they run stuff on ARM64 servers for whatever reason, those fools!)?

What if I just want to buy a thing. And then later also be able to sell it maybe.

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