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Could we make the web more immersive using a simple optical illusion?

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Re: Could we make the web more immersive using a simple optical illusion?

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Post by maverwa »

permo-w wrote: post #61
Waterluvian wrote: post #11

I don’t know any of the science behind it, but my experience with these kinds of ideas (including the 2007 wiimote target demo which I replicated and showed to family), is that they feel exhausting to use beyond a 15 min novelty. My guess is that the brain detects that the motions and such are not quite right, and like a wrong eyeglass prescription, your brain and eyes work overtime trying to figure out compensation.

could a (much) bigger screen compensate for this?

I assume one of the biggest problems is, that both eyes see the exact same image while in a „real 3D environment“ both eyes would see slightly different views of the world where the brain then reconstructs the depth out of it. Here we have the „mono“ version with some „fake stereo“. It works surprisingly well, but the brain calls the bluff.

Re: Could we make the web more immersive using a simple optical illusion?

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Post by IIAOPSW »

jstummbillig wrote: post #96
IIAOPSW wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's why minimalism has such staying power. Fundamentally, pleasing design is about repetition and consistency. Brian loves patterns, that's all there is to it. Good graphic appeal isn't a seasoning like salt which you can just sprinkle on by paying for a few better "designed" assets. Its possible to make really pleasing design out of parts that are individually seen as cheap and low quality. Its also possible to m…

> Fundamentally, pleasing design is about repetition and consistency. Fundamentally, what makes design pleasing is super hard to reason about. If it was mostly about repetition and consistency, any webpage that used bootstrap or no css at all would be pleasing. If pleasing minimalism was very easy to pull off, nobody would take note of Apple products.

If instead of "very easy" would you be happy if I said minimalism is the "least hard" to pull off?

Re: Could we make the web more immersive using a simple optical illusion?

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Post by ithinkso »

jchw wrote: post #43
bigmattystyles wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had the same thing with compiz when it first came out. I loved it in all the videos; and the first day, but I quickly switched back to plain old desktops.

I actually did use Compiz+Beryll for a fairly long while. Admittedly, the bugs were annoying, but after switching off the most gimmicky bits or at least making them less pronounced (like Wobbly Windows, lol) I found it to be quite nice to use. It felt a bit like if you were using WindowBlinds but supercharged. I later switched to i3wm and threw away desktop effects though. I wouldn't mind them, but I don't miss them…

The sole reason I had compiz back then was to have the cube effect. I do miss my cube even in i3

Re: Could we make the web more immersive using a simple optical illusion?

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Post by Planktonne »

> Imagine, for example, opening your favorite brand’s website and being presented with a miniature virtual storefront. You could look at their most popular products as if you were standing on a sidewalk peering into their shop.

I am imagining it, and it's worse than the current norm.

Re: Could we make the web more immersive using a simple optical illusion?

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Post by scambier »

braingenious wrote: post #50

No.

But, really, the answer to that question is "no". The illusion simply doesn't work if you have two eyes and depth perception. That's why the 3DS needs to have a stereoscopic screen on top of eye tracking, or why VR headsets have 2 screens.

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Post by itissid »

Planktonne wrote: post #124

> Imagine, for example, opening your favorite brand’s website and being presented with a miniature virtual storefront. You could look at their most popular products as if you were standing on a sidewalk peering into their shop. I am imagining it, and it's worse than the current norm.

Storefront branding using "smart" displays has been a variation on the same regurgitated idea since 1908[1].

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selfridges#Windows

Re: Could we make the web more immersive using a simple optical illusion?

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Post by fho »

We use this concept to great effect in a [CAVE] where we were limited to 2d projections. The thing that many are not aware of is that stereovision is just one of many ways we perceive depth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_perception

[CAVE](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_Automatic_Virtual_Environ...)

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