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Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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What's wrong with the performance?

A comparable m1 is twice as fast in the above benchmarks? And that’s Apple’s chip from 2 years ago! Core for core this is a dog.

Surely if you consider apple hardware you don't care about performance, price or supporting an ecosystem that underpins the very essence of you are trying to do.

Buying mac hardware for a linux workstation is madness.

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It is a bit odd, Apple’s laptop chips are of course very good. But breathless articles like this make me wonder if the author is not aware that Intel and AMD have desktop chips? Especially in single core performance, Intel’s designs are, from the ground up, built on the assumption of higher power budgets. Apple’s “workstation” chips are a bunch of (very good) laptop cores, they can only go so far.

Yeah, looks like Intel desktops are currently ~10% ahead of Mac laptops in single-threaded performance: https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/intel-core-i9-13900... https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/macbook-pro-16-inch-2023-... (Admittedly the Mac Studio is slower, since it was released ~360 days ago - probably not the best time to buy one, but who knows when they'll update it.) The author states the desire is to…

How long does one of those things function if I take out its processor fan?

Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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> Want to use FUSE? Fuse is infuriating on MacOS - why is it not included by default??

Because it's a random third party filesystem adaptor module. Why would it be "included by default"?

Most of the Unix utilities that are included were written by third parties. They're "included by default" because they're useful and take up a negligible amount of space.

Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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And yet open source community embraces the hardware with fervor.

Vast majority of hardware used by the open source community is proprietary and undocumented, and always has been. They embrace the challenge of reverse-engineering.

I hope I get to be a badass challenge-embracing reverse engineer like the people behind Asahi one day. I've done some USB stuff but have no idea how they're tackling all the other hardware.

Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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That's the cost for 10x the memory bandwidth of the Ryzen 7950x.

Once again reminding folk to still be angry at AMD for giving up on HDET. Sucks so bad that one has to go server to get >128bit ram. So sad, such a bad limitation.

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Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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> Everything works… and works perfectly. How can this possibly be true when Asahi Linux is still in alpha? A quick trip to the project page shows lots of hardware features that are still not supported. [1] It’s not a knock against Asahi Linux - it’s amazing what they have accomplished with a small team. It just seems so misleading for the author to claim that everything works perfectly. [1] https://github.com/AsahiLi…

From your link, what's missing for the OP is: Thunderbolt, DP Alt Mode, Video Decoder/Encoder, SEP, Neural Engine, internal Speaker Thunderbolt seems like the main missing feature. It's easy to see how someone could live a fulfilling life without running into the lack of any of those features. E.g. is there even anything on the Linux desktop that could take advantage of the Neural Engine or Secure Enclave?

Lack of HW video support will ruin battery life if you do conference calls or watch YouTube. It’s surprisingly important.

Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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> 8 hours on a M1 Macbook, so that's better than most/all x86 laptops with Linux It is makes no sense to compare an $1k/$2k M1 Macbook with random laptops. Those laptops exist because people want to run MS Word or Excel for $400. That's the feature. Various System76 laptops, Thinkpads (among many other laptops recommended by Linux users) give you battery life comparable to macOS on the M1.

I keep hearing about battery life being just as almost just as good or better on linux (and on Windows too, though that's a more realistic claim). Yet even the latest gens thinkpads are pretty awful w.r.t battery. My friend bought an i5 12xxx Thinkpad X1 and can barely do 5 or 6 hours of screen on time, when the stated capacity is 16h. Lenovo denied a refund, because it's working as intended according to them (and my…

Lenovo’s battery life numbers are consistent generation to generation, but wildly unrealistic. My 2015 thinkpad (since replaced by m1 air) was rated as 12 hours but could do at most half in practice doing very light tasks and typically ran about 4 hours. So when you buy a thinkpad you should assume actual battery life is a third to half of the rated life.

Apple’s numbers are equally unrealistic. They rate my m1 air for 15 hours, but in practice it gets to around 8 hours.

Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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I cannot wait for Linux to be fully usable on my Apple Silicon MBP. That is going to be such a killer environment to develop on. Crazy fast hardware, great high refresh screen, insane battery life, fantastic touchpad, gestures and keyboard. There is the potential that Windows games could run on it with some combination of x86 translation and Proton. Using MacOS on it feels like I have a ferrari with square wheels. Wa…

I really don't understand the obsession with Apple laptop hardware. There are many alternatives that objective better: more ergonomic, less reflective screens, better keyboards, cheaper, lighter.

Re: ARM64 Linux Workstation

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I'd be curious to see properly done benchmarks against top of the line Intel or AMD machines. I'd be surprised if the Mac was faster. I do understand that people want the Mac for the build quality of the laptop, not just for speed.

Don't forget that it's the best bang for the watt (at least when running macOS).

Is it? A mac mini with m2 pro, decent ram, decent storage is $2000+. You can buy quite a few Watt hours for that.
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