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Could we make the web more immersive using a simple optical illusion?

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Re: Could we make the web more immersive using a simple optical illusion?

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Post by pugworthy »

sublinear wrote: post #27
pugworthy wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AR as in overlay on what you're looking at, or VR as in replace everything you're looking at?

I didn't even mention VR and I am so beyond tired of it being brought up every time AR is. I said AR because I meant AR.

It would take some serious overlay resolution to replace a monitor, which just doesn't exist right now (?). If the angular size of a pixel is too large, it's essentially like being nearsighted. A person with 20/20 vision can see detail down to the eye forming an angle of 5 arc minute (1 arc minute = 1/60 of a degree).

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Post by bigmattystyles »

Waterluvian wrote: post #11

I don’t know any of the science behind it, but my experience with these kinds of ideas (including the 2007 wiimote target demo which I replicated and showed to family), is that they feel exhausting to use beyond a 15 min novelty. My guess is that the brain detects that the motions and such are not quite right, and like a wrong eyeglass prescription, your brain and eyes work overtime trying to figure out compensation.

I had the same thing with compiz when it first came out. I loved it in all the videos; and the first day, but I quickly switched back to plain old desktops.

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Post by chaboud »

jemmyw wrote: post #13

It doesn't work if 2 people are looking at the screen?

It doesn’t even really work for two eyes if the viewer is close to the display. Close one eye to really nail the illusion.

Think of it as the perfect approach for pirates with no friends.

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Post by davidlumley »

If you're curious what an implementation looks like: Charlie Gerard's article[1] shows how to accomplish a similar effect in-browser. It's pretty straight forward although not sure what performance looks like in large scenes.

I like the idea, but don't know if people are ready to grant webcam permissions to untrusted any websites.

1: https://charliegerard.dev/blog/interactive-frame-head-tracki...

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Post by lern_too_spel »

startupsfail wrote: post #15

Getting the camera intrinsics problem is might be solvable with the dataset of intrinsics (assuming that the browser allows to get the camera model ).

You can pose estimation of these parameters as an optimization problem. https://sites.google.com/ttic.edu/self-sup-self-calib

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Post by avereveard »

metalrain wrote: post #24

TrackIR is existing and mature product using the original idea. Sure it requires extra hardware, but it's amazing in first person games that support it. You get to use your good monitor, don't get dizzy like in VR and it could be quite cheap. I think implementing similar thing with just camera and computer vision is a good idea, let's make this more common thing.

Open track with neural net tracker can do what you're asking. The default configuration is a bit wonky but it works very well after some smoothing here and there.
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