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-1: as an ex-googler, I can say it was hard enough for Google itself to get its code to run, given gonzo infrastructure assumptions, proprietary libraries/languages, etc.

That speaks volumes of the code quality @ Google.

It's not poor code quality to depend upon available dependencies.

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> This argument has been made since at least the start of written records: That argument has been made since only slightly later. The key difference is that this truly is a unique time in history by population numbers. It's also unique in that humans could destroy the biosphere if we wanted to - that was never possible before the mid-20th. Just because people jumped the gun in the past doesn't mean they are wrong now…

> It's also unique in that humans could destroy the biosphere if we wanted to - that was never possible before the mid-20th. It's not possible now either. If all of humanity's efforts were devoted to this task, they would not even make a noticeable difference.

My assessment for most of my life has been if most of the world's ~10k 'strategic' megaton-scale warheads exploded in air over Earth's major cities it would kick up enough dust to kill the sun for several years, which would kill off a large fraction of Earth's flora and fauna, akin to a major volcanic eruption or asteroid collision.

There would still be life of the smaller sort, and deep in the oceans of course. Only a terribly unlucky cosmic event, like a nearby supernova spewing enough neutrinos at us could kill literally all life, even in the cracks and crevices.

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It's funny that part of the 4chan excitement over this is that they think they'll get back the AI girlfriend experience of when character.ai was hooked up to uncensored GPT-3. All that has been thoroughly shut down by character.ai and Replika and they just want their girlfriends back.

The Repilka subreddit became one of the weirdest places on the internet when their model got capped for adult content. https://www.reddit.com/r/replika/ Hundreds of men (and yes women) full on acting like they lost a spouse and posting constantly about it for weeks. AI is going to create some unusual social situations the general public isn't ready to grasp. And we're only in the early alpha stages.

I've heard vague info/rumors about this Replika thing. I just went over to that reddit link above and read a few posts there... wow, that's wild! Reads like SciFi. Had no idea people had gotten so emotionally attached to an AI already. Damn, reading those posts over there is pretty scary. It's like we need some kind of come to Jesus moment as a society and sit everyone down for a talk about where this is going and how to avoid getting too caught up in this stuff. I really don't think we're ready for this as we thought it was really still decades away and we had more time to prep.

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I'm curious if the blocking of adult content has to do with moralism, commercial interests, or something deeper. An eager to please conversational partner who can generate endless content seems quite dangerous and addictive, especially when it crosses over into romantic areas. There's already posts of people spending entire days interacting with LLMs, using as their therapist, romantic partner, etc. Combined with fin…

Wall-E humans are going to be reality. That last century has already proven that humans cannot be expected to responsibly indulge in Gluttony, Sloth or Lust. Now these models can skip the material desires and trigger permanent hormone releases through perfectly personalized content. I genuinely fear that the breakdown of millennia old social structures that kept us human might lead to a temporary (century long) turmo…

Eh. I'm not so concerned, mostly because we have a whole hell of a lot of "imaginary relationships" already through a number of media. Celebrity worship, video games, even going back to novels.

Re: Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents

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Warning: do not use this for commercial purposes . While the weights may be available now, it's a lawsuit waiting to happen if you try to use this at work. See the original license: "a. Subject to your compliance with the Documentation and Sections 2, 3, and 5, Meta grants you a non-exclusive, worldwide, non-transferable, non-sublicensable, revocable, royalty free and limited license under Meta’s copyright interests…

And where did I sign my name to that agreement?

License agreements/terms of use don't require signature usually. Consent is implied by downloading. That's also the case when you eg; clone a repo, download a file, etc.

I'm anti DRM + restrictions as much as the next guy but just trying to save folks from a bad time if meta comes knocking after seeing corporate IPs downloading the weights.

Re: Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents

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More overhead, torrents being blocked or disliked because of their association with piracy, difficulty to distribute updated versions of files (package indexes)?

Game consoles use torrent protocols to distribute game updates.

Modern AAA games have hundreds of GBs worth of content, and a game is a single unified package. Linux distros have tens of thousands of packages, many of them in less than a MB in size, with different update frequencies and different users. You would need to generate massive amounts of torrents.

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A100s are manufactured in Taiwan.

True, but previous chips have been manufactured in China, and they’re also developing and manufacturing their successor to A100s (H100s) in China. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/01/nvidia-says-us-government-al...

That says "partially developed" in China. H100s will probably be manufactured in Taiwan just like other x100 chips.

All consumer SKUs that I know of are manufactured in China. By volume this is certainly the majority of manufacturing.

Re: Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents

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Good points but it’s worth clarifying that this is not what the Citizens United decision said. It clarified that the state couldn’t decide that the political speech of some corporations (Hillary the Movie produced by Citizens United) was illegal speech and speech from another corporation (Farenheit 9/11 by Dog Eat Dog films and Miramax) was allowed. Understood this way it seems obvious on free speech grounds, and in…

> It’s clear that people don’t and shouldn’t lose their free speech rights when they come together in a group Should Russian (or Dutch) citizens who incorporate in America have the same free speech rights as Billy Bob in Kentucky? As in can the corporate person send millions in political ads and donations even when controlled by foreigners?

Probably. The wording of the Declaration of Independence makes it clear that rights, at least in the American tradition, are not granted to you by law, they are inalienable human rights that are protected by law. That's why immigrants, tourists, and other visitors to America are still protected by the Constitution.

Now, over time we've eroded some of that, but we still have some of the most radical free speech laws in the world. It's one of the few things that I can say I'm proud of my country for.

Re: Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents

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> massively expensive to produce and self-contained to a degree that you can distribute the end product in a torrent. So, like movies or software

Or a copy of Windows or Office source code.

More like a compiled version of Windows.

Re: Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents

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post #473

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I'm curious if the blocking of adult content has to do with moralism, commercial interests, or something deeper. An eager to please conversational partner who can generate endless content seems quite dangerous and addictive, especially when it crosses over into romantic areas. There's already posts of people spending entire days interacting with LLMs, using as their therapist, romantic partner, etc. Combined with fin…

Wall-E humans are going to be reality. That last century has already proven that humans cannot be expected to responsibly indulge in Gluttony, Sloth or Lust. Now these models can skip the material desires and trigger permanent hormone releases through perfectly personalized content. I genuinely fear that the breakdown of millennia old social structures that kept us human might lead to a temporary (century long) turmo…

Well it seems we are well on the way. By 2035 half of humanity is expected to be overweight or obese.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/mar/02/more-than-ha...

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