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They wouldn't be us . We will still die when our bodies fail. But maybe there will be some AI tricking our friends and family into thinking we're still there.
If you have a stroke, and survive, you won't be you anymore.
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Electricity costs are basically irrelevant because the cards are so expensive. A100 cards consume 250w each, with datacenter overheads we will call it 1000 kilowatts for all 2048 cards. 23 days is 552 hours, or 552,000 kilowatt hours total. Most dataceneters are between 7 and 10 cents per kilowatt hour for electricity. Some are below 4. At 10 cents, that's $53,000 in electricity costs, which is nothing next to $30 mi…
> Electricity costs are basically irrelevant because the cards are so expensive. You mean in terms of money. I think this is exactly the problem that we have in CS, nobody really cares about CO2.
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I posit to a friend that: a) As these AI constructs become more advanced (especially around memory and personalization), we will eventually be able to treat them as people b) Some business will eventually sell an off-the-shelf product (hardware and/or software) that is an AI you can bring into your home, that you can treat as a friend, confidant and partner c) Someone will eventually lose their AI friend of many mont…
This is pretty much the premise of the movie "Her".
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I posit to a friend that: a) As these AI constructs become more advanced (especially around memory and personalization), we will eventually be able to treat them as people b) Some business will eventually sell an off-the-shelf product (hardware and/or software) that is an AI you can bring into your home, that you can treat as a friend, confidant and partner c) Someone will eventually lose their AI friend of many mont…
I feel like all these conversations need to be a diff against the movie Her. If it was already covered well there, why repeat it?
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Good points but it’s worth clarifying that this is not what the Citizens United decision said. It clarified that the state couldn’t decide that the political speech of some corporations (Hillary the Movie produced by Citizens United) was illegal speech and speech from another corporation (Farenheit 9/11 by Dog Eat Dog films and Miramax) was allowed. Understood this way it seems obvious on free speech grounds, and in…
That's the first good coherent argument I've seen _for_ Citizens United. Thank you for that insight.
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I'm curious if the blocking of adult content has to do with moralism, commercial interests, or something deeper. An eager to please conversational partner who can generate endless content seems quite dangerous and addictive, especially when it crosses over into romantic areas. There's already posts of people spending entire days interacting with LLMs, using as their therapist, romantic partner, etc. Combined with fin…
Wall-E humans are going to be reality. That last century has already proven that humans cannot be expected to responsibly indulge in Gluttony, Sloth or Lust. Now these models can skip the material desires and trigger permanent hormone releases through perfectly personalized content. I genuinely fear that the breakdown of millennia old social structures that kept us human might lead to a temporary (century long) turmo…
...advance technology. Some group is just going to do whatever they want and hope for the best, and we'll find out decades later if it was a bad idea and if we have a mess to clean up (which we probably won't clean up).
> Might be for the best.
People are going to assume that, because the changes going to be forced on you, like it or not.
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"I was admiring the quality of their HTML5 video player" Which reminds me of when YouTube spent forever with a broken beta HTML5 player, spending 5+ yrs building something that porn sites did immediately.
Isn't the "preview" function in timeline ripped straight off porno sites too ?
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commercial interests. current organizations need recurring revenue or to sell shares at a higher price to investors this perpetual aspect is their achilles heel it is only a matter of time before an organization realizes they don't have to do a SaaS product to make a billion dollars. but for now, everyone's trying to make a hundred billion dollars and are steered into doing things that enthusiasts hate, so that they…
> it is only a matter of time before an organization realizes they don't have to do a SaaS product to make a billion dollars. Most people recognize this. But venture backed startups (especially important for AI companies with high training costs) need to prove stickiness and reoccurring revenue to the investors. Conveniently a subscription proves both. Subscribe and SaaS are just good for businesses (and tbh many pur…
In a non-competitive market with uninformed customers.
Honestly, I have no idea how long that situation can last. Probably more than I can imagine, so yes, it's good business.
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#489It’s interesting that these models are both massively expensive to produce and self-contained to a degree that you can distribute the end product in a torrent. This has not been the case for most commercial software for the past 20 years, during the cloud era. If you could steal a dump of random Facebook source code, it would be 99% useless because it’s so closely tied to the infrastructure. There’s almost nothing yo…
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I'm curious if the blocking of adult content has to do with moralism, commercial interests, or something deeper. An eager to please conversational partner who can generate endless content seems quite dangerous and addictive, especially when it crosses over into romantic areas. There's already posts of people spending entire days interacting with LLMs, using as their therapist, romantic partner, etc. Combined with fin…
Wall-E humans are going to be reality. That last century has already proven that humans cannot be expected to responsibly indulge in Gluttony, Sloth or Lust. Now these models can skip the material desires and trigger permanent hormone releases through perfectly personalized content. I genuinely fear that the breakdown of millennia old social structures that kept us human might lead to a temporary (century long) turmo…
> And so it is that you by reason of your tender regard for the writing that is your offspring have declared the very opposite of its true effect. If men learn this, it will implant forgetfulness in their souls. They will cease to exercise memory because they rely on that which is written, calling things to remembrance no longer from within themselves, but by means of external marks. What you have discovered is a recipe not for memory, but for reminder. And it is no true wisdom that you offer your disciples, but only the semblance of wisdom, for by telling them of many things without teaching them you will make them seem to know much while for the most part they know nothing. And as men filled not with wisdom but with the conceit of wisdom they will be a burden to their fellows. - Plato, in Phaedrus, ca. 370 BC
While our replacements for parts of ourselves have gotten far more advanced, the fact of the matter is that we haven't stopped being human simply because we can make tools that remember things for us, build things for us, or let us change parts of ourselves more easily.
This is because what makes something human is not our body--an argument that Diogenes famously refuted in about the same era--nor is it merely our minds, though our minds are pretty impressive. What makes us human--what makes us alive, in a sense beyond merely being an animal that isn't dead yet--is what we do with those things. I could grow fox ears and a fluffy tail in the world of tomorrow; I could use an AI to remind myself to self-care; today I already benefit from a thousand different kinds of mass-produced products. But none of that makes me a different person, because I'll still be doing things with my life that meant something to me yesterday--because those things will continue meaning something to me tomorrow.