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Iran discovers world’s second largest lithium reserve

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Re: Iran discovers world’s second largest lithium reserve

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This is a lot like saying, in 1995, that if the internet was going to be a useful thing to society, then everybody would already be using it. Utilities are slow. And not so bright. They are using old technology that hasn't changed for decades, has reached its peak, and doesn't advance. Utilities are conservative. If something new comes out and is better, it's going to take them a decade to even realize what's happeni…

Utilities are huge financial organzations that have to provide secure generation and transportation over decades. Just because solar is cheaper now doesn't mean you can replace everything in just a few years. Also Solar might work great in California but Nebraska not so much.

> Also Solar might work great in California but Nebraska not so much

If you think that solar doesn't work fantastically in Nebraska, then I think you need to reevaluate the data, and start holding your utility to account.

Solar works great in Minnesota, with lower solar resources than Nebraska. The key difference is whether the utility will allow a financially beneficial decision to made, not the fundamental economics of the technology.

Contrast the planned 2023 solar additions in yellow dots on this map:

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=50818

With the amount of solar insolation (note that the color gradient only spans a ~30-40% overall difference, too):

https://www.nrel.gov/gis/assets/images/solar-annual-ghi-2018...

So while you are right that utilities are slow, which was the main thrust of my original comment, we must also acknowledge the financial incentives of utilities to distort a setup that can not even result be called a market.

Electricity decisions are made based on what the utility perceives will give it the greatest profit, with all their biases, and without regard to what will deliver the best overall cost-optimal solution for reliable power.

Re: Iran discovers world’s second largest lithium reserve

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What? Only the most disgusting racists were "ok" with the invasion of Iraq, for the sole reason it made brown muslims people hurt

All polls closely prior to the attack on Iraq show 55-67% US public support. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opinion_in_the_United...

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Re: Iran discovers world’s second largest lithium reserve

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Keep in mind that the ~1.5B cars + trucks in the entire world combine for only ~10% of worldwide greenhouse gas emissions. Also, if your electricity is made by coal power plants there's no point using EV.

EVs are significantly more efficient in turning energy into movement, and generating power in a dedicated power plant is far more optimized than it is within an ice car. Even if you are getting all of your power from coal power plants, the emissions are likely close to parity if not marginally better.

That is the worst case scenario however. Most places in the developed world only get a percentage of their power from coal, and over the lifecycle of the vehicle, that percentage is set to reduce. It makes little sense to take about the state of the world today, when a new vehicle is expected to be on the road for multiple decades.

Your talking points are tired and not helpful. This is a transition that needs to happen. There are better critiques to be made.

Re: Iran discovers world’s second largest lithium reserve

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Keep in mind that the ~1.5B cars + trucks in the entire world combine for only ~10% of worldwide greenhouse gas emissions. Also, if your electricity is made by coal power plants there's no point using EV.

Incorrect. Even if your power grid is the rare case of 100% coal power, an EV running on that grid would account for about as much CO2 as a ICE vehicle getting 50mpg which is better than most gasoline powered vehicles. Since almost all power grids use a mix of fossil fuels and carbon-free sources, the actual numbers are much better than that worst case.

Not just that, zero tailpipe emissions has a lot of public health benefits in urban areas at the least

Re: Iran discovers world’s second largest lithium reserve

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> a hegemon that largely avoided conflict I'm sorry but this ignores the history. Vast swathes of Africa, Latin America and Asia were in conflicts and turmoil, sometimes due to the same hegemon and her allies. The only region that was mostly conflict free in the post WW2 era was Europe and North America.

He clearly means on our doorstep. There are almost no Americans left alive who have ever lived through war coming to America. The worst we've had was 9/11 where 3000 people were killed. It lead to us flipping out, starting multiple wars over, and cheering on the government broadly restricting civil rights in a bout of mass fear, anxiety, and paranoia. By contrast about 3% of all humans alive were killed in WW2, over…

> He clearly means on our doorstep.

I didn’t read that in their comment, and since I’m not American I assumed that they are talking about the world. Everyone knows USA is a hegemon in a global sense and not a regional sense. The past 70 years were not some conflict free utopia for rest of the world.

But I agree with your general point that we need to avoid further conflicts else we’re doomed.

Re: Iran discovers world’s second largest lithium reserve

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post #261

Keep in mind that the ~1.5B cars + trucks in the entire world combine for only ~10% of worldwide greenhouse gas emissions. Also, if your electricity is made by coal power plants there's no point using EV.

I don't know about you but reducing GHG emissions by 10% sounds pretty good to me.

Re: Iran discovers world’s second largest lithium reserve

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Large scale protests like this are frequently externally influenced. I really wouldn't be surprised if in 50 years time when top secret documents are released to archives we don't find that these protests are being financially supported or organised by USA/Israel/the west. It wouldn't be the first time [1][2][3] [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am…

That's such bullshit and it completely invalidates the real issues at hand and the agency of Iranians.

Uh, wut? "Agency" isn't magical omnipotence. There are always people in every country with interests and views that align with some foreign interest that is capable of bankrolling or otherwise supporting and making possible what previously was not.

Re: Iran discovers world’s second largest lithium reserve

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western economists unironically call it the resource curse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_curse examples include Saudi Arabia, Norway and Alaska. Oh no wait bad examples.

Saudi Arabia is hardly a desirable model, though enough money admittedly papers over a lot of human rights abuses. In the above example it's like a hot girl with severe mental health issues. Norway's sovereign wealth fund is a strategy to escape the resource curse. It's like a hot girl with high self esteem and a handgun in her purse. Alaska is one state in a country that has other things going for it. It's like a ho…

> Norway's sovereign wealth fund is a strategy to escape the resource curse.

Alaska has the Permanent Fund for much the same reason.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Permanent_Fund

Re: Iran discovers world’s second largest lithium reserve

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With India also discovering a very large amount of lithium reserves very recently, lithium might end up being abundant and accelerate the EV transition even faster. [1] https://innovationorigins.com/en/india-discovers-5-5-of-worl...

If you were to electrify all the vehicles in the world today (and the developing world hasn't even got lots of cars yet), it would take 1/2 the world's known supply of lithium. and those batteries only last about 8 to 10 years.

Lithium become abundant, no way. Not with the amounts we're using up per capita and the enormous population on this planet. the green revolution is just getting started and there's definitely not enough to go around.

Re: Iran discovers world’s second largest lithium reserve

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post #166

With India also discovering a very large amount of lithium reserves very recently, lithium might end up being abundant and accelerate the EV transition even faster. [1] https://innovationorigins.com/en/india-discovers-5-5-of-worl...

If you were to electrify all the vehicles in the world today (and the developing world hasn't even got lots of cars yet), it would take 1/2 the world's known supply of lithium. and those batteries only last about 8 to 10 years. Lithium become abundant, no way. Not with the amounts we're using up per capita and the enormous population on this planet. the green revolution is just getting started and there's definitely…

Lets save the planet with further exploitation of the planet.
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