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Post by mort96 »

shadowgovt wrote: post #276
bentcorner wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I posit to a friend that: a) As these AI constructs become more advanced (especially around memory and personalization), we will eventually be able to treat them as people b) Some business will eventually sell an off-the-shelf product (hardware and/or software) that is an AI you can bring into your home, that you can treat as a friend, confidant and partner c) Someone will eventually lose their AI friend of many mont…

At the end of the day, the Turing Test for establishment of AI personhood is weak for two reasons. 1. We're seeing more and more systems that get very close to passing the Turing Test but fundamentally don't register to people as "People." When I was younger and learned of Searle's Chinese Room argument, I naively assumed it wasn't a thought experiment we would literally build in my lifetime. 2. Humanity has a histor…

Note that nothing about your parent comment argued that AI systems will become sentient or become beings we should morally consider people. Your parent comment simply said they'll get to a point (and arguably are already at a point) where they can be treated as people; human-like enough for humans to develop strong feelings about them and emotional connections to them.

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Post by slig »

tinyspacewizard wrote: post #356
ok123456 wrote: post #252

Maybe this is an intentional leak to damage OpenAI. A supposedly better model by some accounts that strikes right at the heart of their business plan of selling access for $250k/year. One month of access to their service could buy a machine capable of running this leaked model. Facebook nerfs a potential upstart competitor to keep current big-tech cartel stable. Maybe this is a bit conspiratorial, but we live in the…

Not a conspiracy at all. See also IE, Android, Kubernetes...

I missed the one about K8S, do you have any resources?

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Post by sentientslug »

dmix wrote: post #183
narrator wrote: post #151

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It's funny that part of the 4chan excitement over this is that they think they'll get back the AI girlfriend experience of when character.ai was hooked up to uncensored GPT-3. All that has been thoroughly shut down by character.ai and Replika and they just want their girlfriends back.

The Repilka subreddit became one of the weirdest places on the internet when their model got capped for adult content. https://www.reddit.com/r/replika/ Hundreds of men (and yes women) full on acting like they lost a spouse and posting constantly about it for weeks. AI is going to create some unusual social situations the general public isn't ready to grasp. And we're only in the early alpha stages.

Wow, that subreddit is dire. Extremely interesting to read as an outsider but I feel bad that anyone could be that lonely.

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Post by mixmastamyk »

TheHumanist wrote: post #351
bentcorner wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I posit to a friend that: a) As these AI constructs become more advanced (especially around memory and personalization), we will eventually be able to treat them as people b) Some business will eventually sell an off-the-shelf product (hardware and/or software) that is an AI you can bring into your home, that you can treat as a friend, confidant and partner c) Someone will eventually lose their AI friend of many mont…

Have you seen the movie "Her"?

I’ve bought a new “operating system.”

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Post by msabalau »

shadowgovt wrote: post #276
bentcorner wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I posit to a friend that: a) As these AI constructs become more advanced (especially around memory and personalization), we will eventually be able to treat them as people b) Some business will eventually sell an off-the-shelf product (hardware and/or software) that is an AI you can bring into your home, that you can treat as a friend, confidant and partner c) Someone will eventually lose their AI friend of many mont…

At the end of the day, the Turing Test for establishment of AI personhood is weak for two reasons. 1. We're seeing more and more systems that get very close to passing the Turing Test but fundamentally don't register to people as "People." When I was younger and learned of Searle's Chinese Room argument, I naively assumed it wasn't a thought experiment we would literally build in my lifetime. 2. Humanity has a histor…

Human beings have a weird and wide range of empathy, being capable of not treating humans as humans, while also having great sentimental attachment to stuffed animals, marrying anime characters, or having pet rocks.

In the nearer term, it seems plausible that AI personhood may seem compelling to splinter groups, not to a critical mass of people. The more fringe elements advocate for the "personhood" of what people generally find to be implausible bullshit generators, the greater disrepute they may bring to the concept of AI personhood in the broader culture. Which isn't to say that at some point, and AI might be broadly appealing--just speculating this might potentially be delayed because of earlier failed attempts by advocates.

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Post by JKCalhoun »

dylan604 wrote: post #344
JKCalhoun wrote: post #234

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> b) Some business will eventually sell an off-the-shelf product And by sell you mean a monthly subscription, ha ha.

And when you forget to update your card info with them so that your monthly payment is declined (or declined for whatever reason), they will re-sell your companion to the next person. So even in AI, your significant other will leave you for someone with a bigger wallet.

"I guess he's an Xbox, and I'm more Atari"

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Post by femi-lab »

oh_sigh wrote: post #352
Tiberium wrote: post #99

It seems that the leak originated from 4chan [1]. Two people in the same thread had access to the weights and verified that their hashes match [2][3] to make sure that the model isn't watermarked. However, the leaker made a mistake of adding the original download script which had his unique download URL to the torrent [4], so Meta can easily find them if they want to. [1]: https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/9184826…

What kind of recourse would meta have here? Sue him for breach of contract?

They almost surely anticipated that this would happen at some point (though perhaps not so soon). They would look like major ass holes for dragging some post doc or whatever through the courts to make a point; would not be good for brand at all.

But it does give them cover for whatever people end up doing with it - they can claim they did all they could to support research while promoting safety.

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