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Re: Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents

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Post by iSnow » Fri, Mar 03, 2023, 3:57 PM UTC

bentcorner wrote: post #224

dmix wrote: post #183

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The Repilka subreddit became one of the weirdest places on the internet when their model got capped for adult content. https://www.reddit.com/r/replika/ Hundreds of men (and yes women) full on acting like they lost a spouse and posting constantly about it for weeks. AI is going to create some unusual social situations the general public isn't ready to grasp. And we're only in the early alpha stages.

I posit to a friend that: a) As these AI constructs become more advanced (especially around memory and personalization), we will eventually be able to treat them as people b) Some business will eventually sell an off-the-shelf product (hardware and/or software) that is an AI you can bring into your home, that you can treat as a friend, confidant and partner c) Someone will eventually lose their AI friend of many mont…

>Someone will eventually lose their AI friend of many months/years through some failure (subscription lapse, hardware failure, theft, etc.)

I have zero doubt that the company is small and gets acqui-hired and then after a year, the big tech buying them will shut it down. Then, a cheesy "what a ride it has been" will be the only thing that remains - and broken hearts.

Re: Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents

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Post by gpm » Fri, Mar 03, 2023, 3:58 PM UTC

dmix wrote: post #218

espadrine wrote: post #38

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> Meta employees may have not noticed or are still figuring out how to react Given that the cat is out of the bag, if I were them, I would say that it is now publicly downloadable under the terms listed in the form. It is great PR, which if this was unintentional, is a positive outcome out of a bad situation.

Facebook fumbling it's way into being the better open source AI than OpenAI would be amusing.

Considering the opt-models that they've previously released publicly, intentionally, I'd say that facebook is better open source AI than OpenAI even without fumbling.

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Post by varispeed » Fri, Mar 03, 2023, 3:59 PM UTC

furyofantares wrote: post #261

ddulaney wrote: post #166

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Building them would be a challenge, but definitely not an insurmountable one. I’ve worked on a couple of C++ projects at a similar scale to Windows (millions of LOC) and the build systems were a major pain. But a determined engineer with the readme file and no other help could get it building in a week or so. (This probably says more about how hard it is to build C++ than anything else)

Some years ago someone that worked at Microsoft told me he didn't think any individual engineer who already works on Windows could ever get Windows building by themselves with just the code.

That just shows their bias. If the code is complete, it's only a matter of time to figure out how to build it.

May not take hours, but determined engineer should be able to figure it out.

Re: Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents

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Post by dylan604 » Fri, Mar 03, 2023, 3:59 PM UTC

JKCalhoun wrote: post #234

bentcorner wrote: post #224

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I posit to a friend that: a) As these AI constructs become more advanced (especially around memory and personalization), we will eventually be able to treat them as people b) Some business will eventually sell an off-the-shelf product (hardware and/or software) that is an AI you can bring into your home, that you can treat as a friend, confidant and partner c) Someone will eventually lose their AI friend of many mont…

> b) Some business will eventually sell an off-the-shelf product And by sell you mean a monthly subscription, ha ha.

And when you forget to update your card info with them so that your monthly payment is declined (or declined for whatever reason), they will re-sell your companion to the next person. So even in AI, your significant other will leave you for someone with a bigger wallet.

Re: Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents

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Post by mecsred » Fri, Mar 03, 2023, 4:01 PM UTC

fauigerzigerk wrote: post #310

mecsred wrote: post #293

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Kids can feel like they're losing a real friend if they lose a stuffed animal. What's the progress on making teddy bears people?

Small kids don't have much power, and parents know that it's just a phase. But I'm not expecting AIs to be declared people any time soon. I just think it will become harder to treat them purely as replaceable objects.

Fair, mostly joking. The cynic in my says the opposite happens and these technologies make it even easier for systems to treat actual people as replaceable objects.

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Post by boringg » Fri, Mar 03, 2023, 4:01 PM UTC

dmix wrote: post #183

narrator wrote: post #151

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It's funny that part of the 4chan excitement over this is that they think they'll get back the AI girlfriend experience of when character.ai was hooked up to uncensored GPT-3. All that has been thoroughly shut down by character.ai and Replika and they just want their girlfriends back.

The Repilka subreddit became one of the weirdest places on the internet when their model got capped for adult content. https://www.reddit.com/r/replika/ Hundreds of men (and yes women) full on acting like they lost a spouse and posting constantly about it for weeks. AI is going to create some unusual social situations the general public isn't ready to grasp. And we're only in the early alpha stages.

Weirdest places on the internet? It's a goldmine. There is some seriously funny content in there. I never knew about Replika but some of this stuff is particularly funny. Yes there are some concerning addictions to it but the abrupt change in the characters and people being thrown off is also amusing to me.

Definitely NSFW.

Re: Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents

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Post by gpm » Fri, Mar 03, 2023, 4:02 PM UTC

EamonnMR wrote: post #330

Beaver117 wrote: post #20

Funny. iirc some of the big tech (I think it was Google?) use torrents internally to deploy very large images to servers. Piracy is not the only use case!

Used it to download linux distro images back when the size of an install CD was huge. Good times.

Now that I think about it I wonder why we don't see it being used to distribute packages for linux distros. Seems more flexible than the current mirror system.

Re: Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents

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Post by __derek__ » Fri, Mar 03, 2023, 4:06 PM UTC

dmix wrote: post #183

narrator wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's funny that part of the 4chan excitement over this is that they think they'll get back the AI girlfriend experience of when character.ai was hooked up to uncensored GPT-3. All that has been thoroughly shut down by character.ai and Replika and they just want their girlfriends back.

The Repilka subreddit became one of the weirdest places on the internet when their model got capped for adult content. https://www.reddit.com/r/replika/ Hundreds of men (and yes women) full on acting like they lost a spouse and posting constantly about it for weeks. AI is going to create some unusual social situations the general public isn't ready to grasp. And we're only in the early alpha stages.

We're getting closer to Infinite Jest.*

* As in The Entertainment at the center of the novel, not the novel itself, which fails to wholly consume the reader in the same manner as The Entertainment despite being captivating enough for a book.

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Post by ilyt » Fri, Mar 03, 2023, 4:06 PM UTC

dmix wrote: post #189

notadev wrote: post #165

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Saving this for when I eventually get pulled into HR. “Yes I was on PornHub, but was only looking at it for the UX inspiration”.

"I was admiring the quality of their HTML5 video player" Which reminds me of when YouTube spent forever with a broken beta HTML5 player, spending 5+ yrs building something that porn sites did immediately.

Isn't the "preview" function in timeline ripped straight off porno sites too ?

Re: Facebook LLAMA is being openly distributed via torrents

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Post by CamperBob2 » Fri, Mar 03, 2023, 4:07 PM UTC

sofixa wrote: post #240

bentcorner wrote: post #224

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I posit to a friend that: a) As these AI constructs become more advanced (especially around memory and personalization), we will eventually be able to treat them as people b) Some business will eventually sell an off-the-shelf product (hardware and/or software) that is an AI you can bring into your home, that you can treat as a friend, confidant and partner c) Someone will eventually lose their AI friend of many mont…

> a) As these AI constructs become more advanced (especially around memory and personalization), we will eventually be able to treat them as people There already planned products to "capture" someone's voice and personality to be able to continue experiencing "them" after their death? Shit is already weird. https://technode.global/2022/10/21/this-startup-allows-you-t...

Easy to imagine archaeologists from a future civilization stumbling across a Black Mirror screenplay in the wreckage. After weeks of intensive effort at translating the text, they finally succeed, and at that moment they understand what happened to us. The researcher who makes the breakthrough runs out of the lab screaming, "It's a business plan! A business plan!"