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Iran discovers world’s second largest lithium reserve

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Re: Iran discovers world’s second largest lithium reserve

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Swizec wrote: post #220
gleenn wrote: post #175

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I believe even ocean water is a potential source of Lithium if we ever get constrained on more direct sources. Unfortunately it's not really Lithium holding back EVs, it's Cobalt and a few other rare earth metals. Also not sure how much having Lithium locked up in a heavily sanctioned country will help the big battery manufacturers. Edit: typos

> Also not sure how much having Lithium locked up in a heavily sanctioned country will help the big battery manufacturers To put my cynic’s hat on: Having something the super powers want sounds like a great way to stop being so sanctioned. Great negotiating leverage.

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recuter wrote: post #187
unmole wrote: post #39

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> confirmation from multiple third parties and countries So, exactly the same as Iraq?

Nope, not remotely the same as Iraq. I like how some whataboutists here are arguing that Iran was treated poorly and therefore "deserves a nuclear weapon" and at the same time that it is all a conspiracy and they aren't developing one - despite overwhelming evidence from none US sources.

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Post by fvdessen »

my_city wrote: post #152
quic5 wrote: post #102

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Yeah because wanting basic human rights is just something "the West" wants

Of course not, but The West (NATO and its allies) uses those excuses to support coups, dictatorships and regime changes that benefit American companies. The objective is to plunder the country of its natural resources, and control it politically and militarly. Do you think the west gives a flying fuck about human rights? Do you see protests erupting in Saudi Arabia or Dubai or other western allies? They dont care abo…

You don’t see protests in Dubai and Saudi Arabia because these countries are (compared to Iran) really rich and liberal

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Post by HPsquared »

j_maffe wrote: post #109
redeeman wrote: post #77

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> Infinite power from the sky that’s cheaper than fossil fuels but it isnt though, if it was, it would be happening all over, without massive subsidies and strongarming from government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil_fuel_subsidies

There is some highly suspect ontology here.

These are mostly generic tax reductions for energy, and would apply equally to solar or any other energy source.

For example in the UK, "fuel and power for domestic use" is subject to the reduced VAT rate of 5%, instead of the standard rate of 20% charged for most items.

This is the kind of thing that gets labelled a "fossil fuel subsidy".

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Post by arcticfox »

jonnycomputer wrote: post #173
goodoldneon wrote: post #151

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If I've learned anything from the Civilization games, you need to have top-tier resources in the desert hexes. Otherwise, the gameplay is too unbalanced

hah ha. but to be fair, calling Iran a desert is like calling the United States a desert. https://www.knowiran.com/iran-landscape

I just cross referenced that against Google Earth and your comment is completely misleading/incorrect. I’m kind of irked by how interesting your claim was compared to how wrong it turned out to be. It is completely dominated by an arid climate with tiny swathes inlaid into it.

The climate map shows how it is comparable to the most desert regions of the United States, such as Arizona, New Mexico, or Nevada.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Iran#/media/Fil...

Vs

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/Koppen-G...

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Post by epistasis »

npalli wrote: post #166

With India also discovering a very large amount of lithium reserves very recently, lithium might end up being abundant and accelerate the EV transition even faster. [1] https://innovationorigins.com/en/india-discovers-5-5-of-worl...

If I had a nickel mine for every time I've pointed out to someone that the "proven reserves" of lithium on a USGS two page PDF are completely uncorrelated to the amount of lithium that will soon be discovered, I'd be extremely wealthy with cobalt. (Cobalt is a common byproduct of nickel mining.)

Even looking at the year-after-year increases in known lithium resources over the past decade shows massive increases.

Lithium will not be a scarce material. The only difficulty in a speedy transition is planning: deploying capital at the right places so that there's not too much mining nor too little. Making enough battery production capacity, but not too little.

There is a ton of money to be made in batteries, but there's a lot of risk due to uncertainty of size of market and timing.

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Post by surge »

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #205
bombcar wrote: post #193

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Huge vast swaths of Australia and the United States are effectively deserts, but they don't "define" the country. It mainly comes down to what pictures you see in the news when something happens, and Iranian cities look "deserty".

There's also a tendency in the US to conflate Iran with Arab countries.

This is the real reason, and I am guilty of it, it's because of the Persian cultural influences and some pictures, people just assumed, it wasn't until I saw some travel shows or more social media that I realized its closer to what I saw in Turkey.
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