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Iran discovers world’s second largest lithium reserve

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Post by ren_engineer »

JumpinJack_Cash wrote: post #94
matthewdgreen wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The degree to which we’ve been blessed with resources and opportunity to do the right thing (and have consistently chosen to do the dumb thing) never fails to amaze me. Infinite power from the sky that’s cheaper than fossil fuels; vast reserves of lithium to help oil-producing nations smoothly transition us away from oil; huge and unusually-enriched Uranium deposits we could use to build power (but instead used to bu…

> > The degree to which we’ve been blessed with resources and opportunity to do the right thing (and have consistently chosen to do the dumb thing) never fails to amaze me It’s the curse of natural resources. When you have “the stuff” you feel like you don’t need to talk to others, spending time and human resources on talks and diplomatic relationships. In the context of global politics, military and intelligence whe…

that curse doesn't hurt the US, Canada, Australia, Norway, or many other resource rich nations

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

Adraghast wrote: post #159
mxxc wrote: post #148

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not what i said at all. it's obvious that the cradle is a whitewashed organ of a dictatorship that pretends to be neutral.

I’m not very familiar with it. Why is that obvious?

> not very familiar with it. Why is that obvious?

You’re pleading your ignorance. The Cradle is Iranian state media.

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Post by toyg »

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #205
bombcar wrote: post #193

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Huge vast swaths of Australia and the United States are effectively deserts, but they don't "define" the country. It mainly comes down to what pictures you see in the news when something happens, and Iranian cities look "deserty".

There's also a tendency in the US to conflate Iran with Arab countries.

: "What's going on? The prisoners should be powerless against our anti-arab ray!"

: "I'M PERSIAN, MOTHERFUCKEEEEERS!" destroys the prison and flies away

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Post by tzs »

oblak wrote: post #181
tzs wrote: post #167

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It also helped in that past that if a country stopped doing whatever it was that drew US sanctions the US would lift those sanctions. Take Iran. The US and several others sanctioned them over trying to develop nuclear weapons. Iran stopped the weapons program, agreed to inspections to verify compliance, and the sanctions were lifted. Then the US put back sanctions for domestic political reasons, and so now when Iran…

If by "sanctions" you mean assassinating their key scientist, Stuxnet and countless other sabotages, then yes, sanctions "work"

No, by "sanctions" I do not mean any of those things. I mean the economic prohibitions against trade with Iran meant to dissuade them from continuing their nuclear program. The ones that Iran agreed to the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action [1] negotiated between Iran and China, France, Germany, Russia, the UK, and the US in order to have lifted.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Comprehensive_Plan_of_Ac...

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Post by ch4s3 »

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #203
steveBK123 wrote: post #34

A strong argument for the existence of a diety is hilarious-if-true outcomes like the Ayatollah getting to have both oil & lithium to remain fully hedged through the EV transition. Too improbable for a fictional movie, but here we are. Life, as always, is stranger than fiction.

Wonder what the deity was busy doing when the US and UK overthrew the democratically elected government of Iran to install a puppet regime that was so hated, that the current one was welcomed in?

The current government wasn't "welcomed in". They seized control by murdering all of the moderates and democrats.

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Post by throwawaymaths »

npalli wrote: post #166

With India also discovering a very large amount of lithium reserves very recently, lithium might end up being abundant and accelerate the EV transition even faster. [1] https://innovationorigins.com/en/india-discovers-5-5-of-worl...

Iirc, lithium is abundant, it just is enough of a pain (and water consuming) to purify and extract that you want to bootstrap with a high purity source.

More than total lithium, I would want to know how pure it starts and what the access to water is like at any given site.

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Post by swamp40 »

matthewdgreen wrote: post #67
steveBK123 wrote: post #34

A strong argument for the existence of a diety is hilarious-if-true outcomes like the Ayatollah getting to have both oil & lithium to remain fully hedged through the EV transition. Too improbable for a fictional movie, but here we are. Life, as always, is stranger than fiction.

The degree to which we’ve been blessed with resources and opportunity to do the right thing (and have consistently chosen to do the dumb thing) never fails to amaze me. Infinite power from the sky that’s cheaper than fossil fuels; vast reserves of lithium to help oil-producing nations smoothly transition us away from oil; huge and unusually-enriched Uranium deposits we could use to build power (but instead used to bu…

I had always thought the Garden of Eden was mapped to the confluence of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in Iraq.

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Post by Swizec »

gleenn wrote: post #175
npalli wrote: post #166

With India also discovering a very large amount of lithium reserves very recently, lithium might end up being abundant and accelerate the EV transition even faster. [1] https://innovationorigins.com/en/india-discovers-5-5-of-worl...

I believe even ocean water is a potential source of Lithium if we ever get constrained on more direct sources. Unfortunately it's not really Lithium holding back EVs, it's Cobalt and a few other rare earth metals. Also not sure how much having Lithium locked up in a heavily sanctioned country will help the big battery manufacturers. Edit: typos

> Also not sure how much having Lithium locked up in a heavily sanctioned country will help the big battery manufacturers

To put my cynic’s hat on: Having something the super powers want sounds like a great way to stop being so sanctioned. Great negotiating leverage.

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