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>Please note that we no longer distribute the following images that were previously available in our database: 4.2.04 (lena), 4.2.02 (tiffany), elaine.512, numbers.512 and testpat.1k. Although these images have played a significant role in the history of image processing, they no longer represent the best examples for future research.
What are the reasons for not distributing anymore the other ones?
Background: the original Lena picture comes from the Playboy Magazine, and the model doesn't want people to use it. https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/articles/it-s-time-to-retire-...
Why is it that in the former, everyone says you're a horrible person who deserves to be cancelled if you ignore the subject's wishes to not use the picture, but in the latter, everyone says it's a great thing if you ignore the subject's wishes to not use the picture?
Background: the original Lena picture comes from the Playboy Magazine, and the model doesn't want people to use it. https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/articles/it-s-time-to-retire-...
The more personal an artifact is, the more I think the subject's wishes should be taken into account. https://qntm.org/mmacevedo is a much more in-depth examination...
The whole 'controversy' is pure spin in an age when everything has to be controversial.
That being said, is the Lena picture still being frequently used? Because I don't recall seeing it that often lately anymore
Who is we? And who made them the arbiter of biases, unintended and intended?
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Really? Presumably she was paid. I don't know what the copyright situation is, but assuming she doesn't hold that I don't know what the issue is. Isn't it like trump objecting to images of his in court accompanying a news item?
That she likely has no legal recourse does not mean that developers and researchers cannot respect her wishes. It's not like this specific image has an inherent property that somehow makes it the superior test image.
If anything, it's not a great image; the standard scan is a bit washed out and doesn't have a full color range. (I can't speak to whether this is a characteristic of the scan, which is now from a very old scanner, or the original image, having never seen the original in print.) No one test image can capture everything an image algorithm might want to test, but more full use of available colors would probably still be advantageous.
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Didn’t realize the model doesn’t want people using it. That holds more weight in my mind than the fact that it was in playboy.
Yes, this definitely changes things. Previously the model didn't seem to be bothered and seemed to find it all quite amusing. People change their minds and we should respect their wishes.
When you sign a contract that says "in return for a bunch of money, you agree that other people can use this picture of you", you shouldn't get to keep the money but change your mind about the picture.
I was expecting to read some story about criminal exploitation, but this sounds like it's just... completely above-board? As a few other commenters stated, the model hasn't explicitly stated whether she supports the use of the photo or not. Even if she did explicitly come out and say she doesn't like people using it, she doesn't own the rights to it. I'm fine with (and happy for) people going above and beyond to resp…
you're also just wrong about the legal aspect of it and seem unfamiliar with licensing
Background: the original Lena picture comes from the Playboy Magazine, and the model doesn't want people to use it. https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/articles/it-s-time-to-retire-...
Didn’t realize the model doesn’t want people using it. That holds more weight in my mind than the fact that it was in playboy.
I had been planning to display it in a glass cabinet next to my Melitta teapot and Luxo jr lamp and ball. (and if anyone has a lead on a terracotta rabbit, please let me know ;)
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It's not really up to models to decide what their pictures gets used for though. Why should this be different? From what I gather it's not because she's uncomfortable with it being used, it's because of controversy other people have drummed up: > When I asked her if she had heard anything about the recent controversy around her image, she seemed alarmed at the thought that she could have a part in hurting or discoura…
So there's contracts and there's intent and morality. The argument you have presented is analogous (like, right next door; they share a side-yard, their kids go to the same school, and they co-organize the neighborhood potluck) to the argument that you and I have no right to our data not being thrown in a big hopper to generate an AI that is designed to operate directly counter to our personal interests. After all, i…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hide_the_Pain_Harold
I have no issue with user data being used to build ML models, although I don't agree with you about the close proximity between a model's photo being used for photo research and anyone's data being used for everything.