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Ethically Sourced Lena Picture

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Re: Ethically Sourced Lena Picture

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Post by nix23 »

CydeWeys wrote: post #14
nix23 wrote: post #2

First why not Lenard and Second, the picture (the short one) shows her hair and ceiling and not her breasts. And Third but minor complaint, if we look at the "Full" picture i at least "want" to see his butt.

Dude, it's literally porn. This is not hard.

> Dude, it's literally porn. This is not hard.

You are going to far, i don't think Lenard has anything todo with porn...well maybe the feather is a bit inappropriate for the normal US-Citizen but if you look at your Music-videos i don't think it's too much.

Re: Ethically Sourced Lena Picture

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Post by enriquto »

seventytwo wrote: post #7
matthews2 wrote: post #3

Background: the original Lena picture comes from the Playboy Magazine, and the model doesn't want people to use it. https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/articles/it-s-time-to-retire-...

Didn’t realize the model doesn’t want people using it. That holds more weight in my mind than the fact that it was in playboy.

It's not so clear that she doesn't want people to use that image. She has assisted several times at image processing conferences, and has stated recently that she was proud of the fact that so many people used that photo. The documentary linked above shows footage of herself talking about the photo, but she never really says people should not use it. The website hosting the documentary has several heavily editorialized quotations that suggest that.

That said, this new "lennart" is hilarious and I would like to use it instead of the original one.

EDIT: here's a 2019 interview where she appears to pose with the same hat again : https://www.wired.com/story/finding-lena-the-patron-saint-of...

Re: Ethically Sourced Lena Picture

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Post by super256 »

CydeWeys wrote: post #14
nix23 wrote: post #2

First why not Lenard and Second, the picture (the short one) shows her hair and ceiling and not her breasts. And Third but minor complaint, if we look at the "Full" picture i at least "want" to see his butt.

Dude, it's literally porn. This is not hard.

Erotica =/= Porn

Re: Ethically Sourced Lena Picture

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Post by shultays »

matthews2 wrote: post #3

Background: the original Lena picture comes from the Playboy Magazine, and the model doesn't want people to use it. https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/articles/it-s-time-to-retire-...

Huh, I remember reading about her finding it interesting, even attending one image processing conference as a guest, but maybe I misremembering?

edit: apparently she changed her mind later

Re: Ethically Sourced Lena Picture

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Post by sorenjan »

seventytwo wrote: post #7
matthews2 wrote: post #3

Background: the original Lena picture comes from the Playboy Magazine, and the model doesn't want people to use it. https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/articles/it-s-time-to-retire-...

Didn’t realize the model doesn’t want people using it. That holds more weight in my mind than the fact that it was in playboy.

It's not really up to models to decide what their pictures gets used for though. Why should this be different?

From what I gather it's not because she's uncomfortable with it being used, it's because of controversy other people have drummed up:

> When I asked her if she had heard anything about the recent controversy around her image, she seemed alarmed at the thought that she could have a part in hurting or discouraging young women. I sent her some articles about the Lenna and later gave her a call to see what she made of them. The photo, she said, doesn’t show very much—just down to her shoulders—so it was hard for her to see what the big deal was.

https://www.wired.com/story/finding-lena-the-patron-saint-of...

Not that it really matters that much, it's a historical curiosity by now.

Re: Ethically Sourced Lena Picture

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Post by vidarh »

benj111 wrote: post #17
seventytwo wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn’t realize the model doesn’t want people using it. That holds more weight in my mind than the fact that it was in playboy.

Really? Presumably she was paid. I don't know what the copyright situation is, but assuming she doesn't hold that I don't know what the issue is. Isn't it like trump objecting to images of his in court accompanying a news item?

Do you not see the difference between the issue of whether it can legally be used, and the issue of whether or not it's nice to keep using it when the person involved would prefer it not be?

She, like Trump, is entitled to her opinion. And sometimes people want to respect people's opinions, sometimes not.

Re: Ethically Sourced Lena Picture

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Post by hidelooktropic »

benj111 wrote: post #8

So we're swapping the possibly problematic ethics of a original with the possibly problematic ethics of showing this to people? I mean is it normal to find that mustache and hat combo this attractive, (as a hetero male)???

In a way, it's actually more offensive. I get that this is a joke. I don't think the author expects anybody to actually use this image, but the call is to retire the lena image not to continue it in a different fashion. I can see someone interpreting this as another man making a joke of women being offended so they step in themselves, "because men are tougher and don't get offended as easily."
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