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Ask HN: Has anyone started over outside of tech?

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Re: Ask HN: Has anyone started over outside of tech?

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I had a burnout from tech about 15 years ago, took a year and a bit off for traveling.

Then had to go back to tech but did set clear boundaries like never doing unpaid overtime. Always clocking out at 5pm and not taking any shit.

That made a huge difference and I started enjoying tech again.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone started over outside of tech?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Especially if you've done it your whole professional life. The type of people who see a major tech company charging for lunches in the company cafeteria and then write articles about them trying to starve their employees would curl up and die the first time a customer screamed at them because their pizza had black olives on 60% of it instead of half.

I’m not proud of it but I really hate black olives and really wanted that extra 10% of pizza.

They do it every time, don't they? If my brother and I get a single pizza I know he's getting two thirds of it because his black olives are going to be all over the place and they taste like poison.

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#53

Teaching. I moved from a big tech company to teaching. Teaching is the hardest job I’ve ever done, and requires entire new skills. Teacher pay, depending on where you are, can be real low compared to FAANG money, but damn do I sleep well at night knowing that I help people. There is nothing like watching someone struggle and then suddenly understanding the subject. But seriously, it is a hard job. You learn quickly t…

I really want to move into teaching. I learned to love programming in HS AP CS and am really considering making the move. I would love to hear more about your experience switching.

Me too! How i wish i'm a fast learner when it comes to tech.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone started over outside of tech?

#54
I'm currently in the nascent stages of transitioning from software engineering to practicing as a (Christian) spiritual director. I went through a two year training program a few years ago, and spent roughly 5-20 hours a month working with people (5 hours represents the number of individuals I see a month, 20 hours when I facilitating some group retreats through my parish). I'd love to move out of engineering completely in the next few years, but I'm still figuring out how to grow my practice enough to provide enough income. Much of my parish-related work is still done on a volunteer basis. I suspect I will need to find other part-time work to supplement income as a director.

There's also the not-so-small matter of providing good health insurance for my not-yet-adult kids. That change is probably another three to five years down the road.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone started over outside of tech?

#55

Teaching. I moved from a big tech company to teaching. Teaching is the hardest job I’ve ever done, and requires entire new skills. Teacher pay, depending on where you are, can be real low compared to FAANG money, but damn do I sleep well at night knowing that I help people. There is nothing like watching someone struggle and then suddenly understanding the subject. But seriously, it is a hard job. You learn quickly t…

Good to hear! I'm just about to start the process of getting my teaching qualification, but it feels really daunting to make the switch and leave my fairly comfortable job behind, where I'm well appreciated (but personally I don't feel like I'm really contributing to the world).

What subject are you teaching? Mine will be physics, if all goes well.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone started over outside of tech?

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Dropped out of tech, arguably more by force than choice. My lifestyle, finances, social life, even country of residence (and by extension my love life) were all balanced on top of that little MacBook Pro. Used it for work, used it to socialize, eventually my brain refused to let me mediate my entire life through a computer any longer and I burned out. Now I work at a hotel! Receptionist, barista, waiter, even some ma…

I would guess the one big difference is respect. For some reason, there is no respect for tech workers.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone started over outside of tech?

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If you want a cautionary tale, here it is: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3134322 The coffeeshop fallacy (2011) It‘s easy to get blinded by how incredibly privileged the tech bubble is and have had a better experience so far just trying to find a great non-toxic spot in there. YMMV, good luck!

This is why it's so important to mix with people from outside of your bubble. HN has some of the worst examples of people who don't know what they have. The discussions around salary are particularly amusing. I'm lucky because my partner is a nurse so I never forget how easy my job is. I also grew up in a poor family and I haven't forgotten what that was like. Honestly, if people would go and spend a long time in a c…

I feel like just patronizing other businesses and watching others work should provide enough perspective. Not having to deal with the general public is itself an amazing benefit.

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#58
Technology is not the problem the industry is the issue. Find somewhere with a low cost of living and other things you enjoy and do that while thinking about what tech you like for its own sake and try to figure out an entry point. I enjoy working with my hands and making things and what I have decided is that I will pursue the 100 year form factor of a computer. It seems plausibly that nobody really wants to use a pointing device, keyboard, and display all day. I doubt I will get anywhere but manufacturing is so cheap that I have built a small run factory and will try to produce parts using current parts combined in some form that can be maintained 100 years. An individual in USA can totally fabricate their own reality and not engage in the hot conversations but producing gratifying work in technology. Some states like Vermont will kick start your reality with $10K for moving there. I find HN interesting because it contains content that transcends the Tech chatter of media.

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone started over outside of tech?

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It is important to understand that everyone has sometimes escape phantasies (teachers, therapists, baristas, founders, medical doctors, professors, developers, etc., they all do) because something is making them truly unhappy in their day-to-day job and they assume other people happier. Finding about the root cause what makes you unhappy will usually lead to more satisfying results than just running after to become a…

My problem is the lack of respect. What can I do about it?

Re: Ask HN: Has anyone started over outside of tech?

#60

Get a hobby (woodworking), something physical where you work with your hands (woodworking) and is easy enough to start but has near infinite depth (woodworking). Could be anything.

As I've become older and now own a house, I've really become a lot more interested in most trade work, such as electrician, plumber, construction, mechanic. I love getting my hands dirty and fixing/creating something physical... sure beats sitting in a chair.
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