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Ford Hires 550 Former Argo.ai Engineers, Creates Latitude.ai

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Re: Ford Hires 550 Former Argo.ai Engineers, Creates Latitude.ai

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Post by CyanBird »

SkyPuncher wrote: post #37
binarymax wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hyundai’s lane keep is so bad that I don’t trust it at all. In the three times I’ve tried to use it, it started to veer off the road suddenly and in strange ways on even the slightest curve. It should be recalled and disabled.

Lane keep is not the same as lane centering. I have a 2020 Palisade with lane centering. It works incredibly well. I've driven through Chicago highways with only management for lane changes. I literally will not buy a car without lane centering after having this car.

> Lane keep is not the same as lane centering

These are God awful naming schemes, completely misleading for the common consumer and bizantine in naming. Near purposefully misleading

Re: Ford Hires 550 Former Argo.ai Engineers, Creates Latitude.ai

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Post by actinium226 »

fwlr wrote: post #48

I wonder if there’s space in the self-driving field for a self-driving-only company. Like, your product is a sensor and software package, and car manufacturers install it in their cars. They get to skip the R&D investment (I imagine there’s a mismatch between current car company management expertise and the management required for overseeing self-driving development), and potentially they get to avoid some of the lia…

This is Aurora's play. Phantom.AI is also in that business.

Re: Ford Hires 550 Former Argo.ai Engineers, Creates Latitude.ai

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Post by SheinhardtWigCo »

scrapcode wrote: post #19
p1esk wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, so they killed the 550 person AV startup they were funding, took 2.7B loss, and 4 months later hired those same 550 people to resume the same work? Something looks seriously wrong here.

What is the possibility that the decision to kill it was just really bad timing, right before this big "boom" in rapid AI advancement?

Whoever made that decision failed to read the room.

Re: Ford Hires 550 Former Argo.ai Engineers, Creates Latitude.ai

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Post by SkyPuncher »

CyanBird wrote: post #51
SkyPuncher wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lane keep is not the same as lane centering. I have a 2020 Palisade with lane centering. It works incredibly well. I've driven through Chicago highways with only management for lane changes. I literally will not buy a car without lane centering after having this car.

> Lane keep is not the same as lane centering These are God awful naming schemes, completely misleading for the common consumer and bizantine in naming. Near purposefully misleading

I think it was a bit of organic confusion. The challenge is they all do very, very similar things. It's just to what degree.

It does seem they starting to standardize the naming.

Re: Ford Hires 550 Former Argo.ai Engineers, Creates Latitude.ai

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Post by crakenzak »

fwlr wrote: post #48

I wonder if there’s space in the self-driving field for a self-driving-only company. Like, your product is a sensor and software package, and car manufacturers install it in their cars. They get to skip the R&D investment (I imagine there’s a mismatch between current car company management expertise and the management required for overseeing self-driving development), and potentially they get to avoid some of the lia…

this is what Mobileye (owned by Intel) does. For some reason they're very discreet about branding so you don't see their name publicized much on cars' spec sheets when mentioning ADS.

Re: Ford Hires 550 Former Argo.ai Engineers, Creates Latitude.ai

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Post by bobsil1 »

cypress66 wrote: post #39
rl3 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not yet . That's because prompt engineering still hasn't been utilized in the sensor and decision control loops of autonomous vehicles. The future: [pandemonium as cars randomly crash everywhere] Microsoft Car. Powered by Bing. “Where do you want to go today?”

> Pretend you are a car driving on a highway...

Prompt 2: It should not crash

Re: Ford Hires 550 Former Argo.ai Engineers, Creates Latitude.ai

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Post by paul7986 »

roseway4 wrote: post #6

Not mentioned here, but in this Techcrunch article, is Ford’s expensive flip-flopping on AV: https://techcrunch.com/2023/03/02/ford-forms-automated-drivi... > Argo AI burst on the scene in 2017 stacked with a $1 billion investment from Ford — and Iater an investment from VW. The startup shuttered suddenly in October 2022 after Ford and VW determined they would no longer pursue AV technology, at least not under the Ar…

Robot cars will take decades of slow progress to be realized otherwise tons of their drivers and innocent drivers will perish.

Too many bought what used car salesman (his shtick) Elon Musk sold us and still tries to.

Ford and others bought his sales pitch and followed him then realized wait this used car salesman is all talk/hubris

Re: Ford Hires 550 Former Argo.ai Engineers, Creates Latitude.ai

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Post by nine_k »

p1esk wrote: post #9
roseway4 wrote: post #6

Not mentioned here, but in this Techcrunch article, is Ford’s expensive flip-flopping on AV: https://techcrunch.com/2023/03/02/ford-forms-automated-drivi... > Argo AI burst on the scene in 2017 stacked with a $1 billion investment from Ford — and Iater an investment from VW. The startup shuttered suddenly in October 2022 after Ford and VW determined they would no longer pursue AV technology, at least not under the Ar…

Wait, so they killed the 550 person AV startup they were funding, took 2.7B loss, and 4 months later hired those same 550 people to resume the same work? Something looks seriously wrong here.

Taking a demonstrative loss on the books could be a tax-optimization maneuver, or so one could cynically suppose.

Re: Ford Hires 550 Former Argo.ai Engineers, Creates Latitude.ai

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Post by kortilla »

mparkms wrote: post #50
pengaru wrote: post #25

That can't possibly be the outcome Argo.ai engineers were hoping for, since any stock/options they had in Argo presumably vanished and all they got in the end was a job @ Ford.

Someone I know was rehired to Ford from Argo and got an extremely generous offer. He seems pretty happy about it.

Numbers? I’m curious what AI comp looks like these days.
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