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Ford's new patent proposes a way for banks to disable features on leased cars
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#12you vill own nothing...
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#13One more disgusting show of corporations doing the wrong thing in the name of profits.
I know this is going to be an unpopular take, but why should a person be allowed to maintain use of an item they don’t own and are delinquent on? The unpopular part is that this just removes some friction from an already existing process. This is assuming there are the appropriate regulations in place to notify and give a reasonable option to rectify the payment issue, but isn’t this exactly how we deal with stuff fr…
> I know this is going to be an unpopular take, but why should a person be allowed to maintain use of an item they don’t own and are delinquent on?
> an item they don’t own
That's the problem, you don't own anything. We're already quickly moving into a future where cars you "buy" have random features locked behind yearly subscriptions that can be remotely disabled if you don't pay, the only reason you can even still "buy" cars instead of renting them is because full self driving isn't capable of safely driving the car back to the manufacturer on its own yet.
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#14So given that they have the legal right to come to your house and forcibly take a leased car from you if you miss payments, a few nag features honestly seem like an improvement.
I would just want to be sure as hell that a car I own outright wouldn't even have the hardware available to do such a thing.
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#15The problem with this is that I think it plays on good nature of people. Ford right now says it's for leased cars but it feels like a step to normalize restricting and milking people later on. It also open a whole new attack vector these companies are not ready to secure
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#16Hopefully ford patents this and then decides to bury it so nobody else will be able to use it. Too much potential for abuse by 3rd party, or even nefarious actors.
Re: Ford's new patent proposes a way for banks to disable features on leased cars
#17you vill own nothing...
Did you read the title up to the word "lease"?
You're right that the patent is specific to leased vehicles. But that shouldn't be confused with the underlying technology, which would have to be baked into the software of all vehicles, including those sold outright.
This means the vulnerability of remote hacking will exist for all vehicles. And who knows what will be buried deep in the TOS — perhaps in a few years we'll hear about Ford shutting down vehicles for people who attended a particular protest that is not in line with the current social mores.
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#19Buying a new car's pretty dumb, but leasing? LOL get outta here.
Re: Ford's new patent proposes a way for banks to disable features on leased cars
#20One more disgusting show of corporations doing the wrong thing in the name of profits.
I love to scold corporations more than most, but this use case seems OK to me. They're talking about doing this with leased cars -- cars that you don't own -- not with cars that you do own.
If I'm leasing a car, that car is the property of the leasing agent, not me. I think it's totally fair that they can do anything they like with it within the terms of our contract, as long as they're disclosing it to me.