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I thought email already did all of this
The social contract of email dictates that it is not a real time communication media. Some people do check their email in real time, but many don't, so you can't rely on that.
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What do you mean? My iPhone often falls back to SMS, even when the other party has an iPhone in a poor reception area.
I saw, with my own eyes, an IPhone upgrade to a new major IOS version and the SMS fallback setting turn off. The change may have been walked back, but I saw it myself, and had to fix it on dozens of phones.
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The whole point of market economies is to let people vote with their resources. The alternative of having people vote for a representative body that regulates how they transact is far worse. Best case you get a almost as good outcome. Worst case is 49.9% of people suffer horribly under state enforced "social good".
Many generations of people fought and died to not just let the monstrous assholes with resources decide everything.
It's the same every time. When Apple gets called out for monopolistic anti-consumer behaviour, an army shows up to defend Apple with a bunch of FUD. No, it won't hurt you or your grandma that you can choose app store, choose browser engine, choose payment provider, that you can charge with usb c, etc., and in this case that non-apple users won't be mocked with different colored bubbles and other limitations. Every co…
I made my choice for Apple in part because of its relatively closed nature compared to its only meaningful competitor. But it was a choice. I used to be the biggest anti-Apple person, too. Until I used their products. The quality is just superior in every way that consumers actually care about. Hypothesis: a substantial fraction of current Android users would switch if they could afford an iPhone (either by a price drop from Apple or an increase in their disposable income).
It's the same every time. When Apple gets called out for monopolistic anti-consumer behaviour, an army shows up to defend Apple with a bunch of FUD. No, it won't hurt you or your grandma that you can choose app store, choose browser engine, choose payment provider, that you can charge with usb c, etc., and in this case that non-apple users won't be mocked with different colored bubbles and other limitations. Every co…
It is mostly a response to the army that shows up to attack Apple with a bunch of FUD.
I don't get it. Isn't SMS the cross platform open standard to send text messages? Why force a proprietary product to open up? Feels like a big overreach of governmental powers.
SMS is currenty being undermined by Google's RCS on Android.[0] Some SMSes sent by Google Messages already don't arrive at non-RCS clients. So that also should be forced to open up. In fact, this is a large part of why Signal is dropping SMS support.[1] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Communication_Services [1] https://signal.org/blog/sms-removal-android/
That's a problem worth solving. Apple Messages falls back from iMessage to SMS transparently; Google RCS should do the same.
If everyone's messaging has to be compatible with everyone else's then maybe we will finally only need one messaging app on our phones again instead of 5. Sounds great. I just want to be able to send messages without thinking about which app I need to go into to communicate with a particular person; that really breaks my flow when I'm trying to get something done. I don't give a shit about any features apart from pic…
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You don't care about any features, apart from the features you care about. Just like everyone else.
To be fair, that was probably the same opinion you expressed when buying an iPhone. Nobody thinks about the consequences of who they can text when they buy a phone, and why should they?
Many of my friends have made the choice to get an iPhone so that they can use iMessage (and FaceTime)
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> it's not a thing here in the Netherlands at least. People use Whatsapp. Then you have a super blue bubble effect if everyone uses WhatsApp then you don’t communicate with people who aren’t on WhatsApp. My understanding of the blue bubble isn’t that the color matters it’s that iMessage functions only work with other iMessage users (eg, delivery is slightly different, sync with other devices, special emojis, reaction…
There is no bubble because literally everyone has whatshapp. It's even available on "dumb phones". I've never met anyone of any age who doesn't have it.
Given how much Europeans bitch about America and American corporations, I continue to be dumbfounded by the tremendous love for Whatsapp. It's made by Facebook FFS. I am pretty amazed at the number of people who are happier with Facebook managing their private communications than they are Apple.
Or, it's just network effect and a lot of rationalization. That's the simpler answer.
The main benefit of iMessage over all the other messaging platforms is there's a lot less spam. I hope this decision doesn't threaten that.
Is that a personal anecdote or is there data to back this up? My anecdote is that iMessage is only place where I get spam almost daily. All other messengers - once per month, at most.
I hope you're reporting the spam you get to Apple, because the fastest way to stop it is to have the offending account terminated.