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A test of your own personal philosophy is when you encounter adversity. Do you apply what you've learned, or make up something on-the-fly?
Too much thinking is like a heavy dish, it makes you sluggish and sleepy. Remember that everything that moves quickly and elegantly through the world does so without too much thought.
And everything that withstands assault does so with thought.
I haven't looked at the research yet, but this feels like it may have some correlation with a psychological trait called dogmatism, which is a defined as exhibiting great certainty about the correctness of one's views and an unwillingness to consider new evidence, or an unwillingness to adjust one's views in light of new evidence. Obviously, they're not the same. NFC pertains more to the desire to go through the proc…
I wonder if we need better role models for embracing uncertainty. If you're a low NFC person, there are a bunch of high status people that take public dogmatic stances, and demonstrate that you have high confidence in a worldview of sweeping generalizations without having to think too hard if only you adopt the Dogma. But I can't really think of role models where someone says "X, Y, Z are all complex and the thing th…
The unaligned are considered "fodder" by the ideologically committed.
Not everyone needs to be recruited. Most people can be kept in line by ensuring everyone knows what the "safe" view is within a specific group and occasionally punishing defectors.
I clicked on "elaboration" and I feel myself about to go down the wiki rabbit hole... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaboration_likelihood_model
Looking like a high school Powerpoint presentation.
I haven't looked at the research yet, but this feels like it may have some correlation with a psychological trait called dogmatism, which is a defined as exhibiting great certainty about the correctness of one's views and an unwillingness to consider new evidence, or an unwillingness to adjust one's views in light of new evidence. Obviously, they're not the same. NFC pertains more to the desire to go through the proc…
> Almost like "It's too overwhelming for me to actually think this through, so I'm choosing to just not." At some point the algorithms in our head has to stop trying to think about things and instead just go with an option. That happens at different points for everyone, some stop thinking earlier while others basically never stops thinking about things so have a hard time getting started with anything. I don't think…
Traditionalism and conservatism are vital aspects of human nature, not necessarily for the individual, definitely for at least some larger groups.
I haven't looked at the research yet, but this feels like it may have some correlation with a psychological trait called dogmatism, which is a defined as exhibiting great certainty about the correctness of one's views and an unwillingness to consider new evidence, or an unwillingness to adjust one's views in light of new evidence. Obviously, they're not the same. NFC pertains more to the desire to go through the proc…
NO. You are completely wrong. Dogmatism Is not laziness.
It's fear of social dominance. It's too overwhelming to be humiliated socially by some other person on hacker news so dogmatic people end up taking the dogmatic route in order to defend their integrity. It's purely a social thing, not an intellectual thing.
In fact, it takes more intelligence, more effort, more grit to defend a point that is, in actuality, wrong. It's basically hard mode.
Here's the other thing. sometimes, these "dogmatic" people are actually RIGHT. Galileo was essentially a flat earther during his time. So the reality is nobody really knows the difference between dogmatism and high NFC. You could be either, it all depends on whether you're in actuality right or wrong.
>But in the cases of both low NFC and high dogmatism, it feels like there's a type of intellectual laziness or cognitive immaturity at play. Almost like "It's too overwhelming for me to actually think this through, so I'm choosing to just not."
This is wrong and insulting. Because the fact of the matter is most people have extremely high dogmatism. Who on the face of this earth will believe in something for 10 years and suddenly flip that belief in an instant when presented with solid evidence that the belief isn't true? Nobody. Because everyone is dogmatic.
99.99% of all debates and arguments on Hacker news are people finding evidence support a point, not using evidence to find a point. Key difference. People just don't function like that.
And, unfortunately, neither do you.
Are there any good books on this topic?
I later learned that my world view has a logical layer.
In contrast others around me have a world view learned by their surroundings.
That made it for me so much clearer why people can life with logical conflicts.
Like the gay people still want to be part of the church.
Or acting different in similar situations.
Or stealing.
Some people are just natural philosophers. I was always one, and an un-analyzed life gets drab very quickly, for me at least. I like to entertain various ideas without taking them too seriously. I like Stoicism which I find very useful, and eastern philosophies like Buddhism. Too easy to become over-zealous about both of those philosophies. A test of your own personal philosophy is when you encounter adversity. Do yo…
