This makes the classic dumb mistake of conflating the machine with the program. The Chinese Room thought experiment says that the _machine_ is not intelligent. It says absolutely nothing about whether the program itself is. For animal internal behavior they are plausibly intertwined (so far), but that's completely untrue for readable instructions.
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#72Pretty sure I’m a machine that’s drawn all my conclusions by statistically analyzing all the input I’ve received since birth… I don’t really know how else I would learn what I have… and I don’t understand how being “just that” is what differentiates modern approaches to AI and my brain.
Exactly this. A lot of these type of articles on AI make the simultaneous mistakes of understating what even the current iterations of models are capable of, while overstating the complexity of our own intelligence. As these models get larger, and we start moving up the ladder of emergent behaviours, there will come a point (possibly quite soon) where the sort of distinctions being drawn are irrelevant. “Oh that’s ju…
That doesn't address the alignment problem. As Yudkowski has pointed out, the space of possible minds is vast. Humans only occupy a small area. The models were are designing are not animal/biological minds. They don't have the same evolutionary drives. We're creating minds in a different part of the mind space, and there's a good chance they will figure out solutions that are not beneficial to us.
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#73This is mostly my point of view as well. With all the talk of AGI, the immediate threat is real and it is primitive AI. I suspect that primitive AI might becomes so self destructive to society that we never reach AGI. We are already approaching a point in time of unverifiable reality and truth. This is going to be very destabilizing to society. Another in depth view of the possible issues that may arrive even before…
> We are already approaching a point in time of unverifiable reality and truth This is also what terrifies me. You'll never be able to trust any digital medium again. - a chat with your uncle could've been convincingly trained using his hacked emails - someone calling you on the phone with a familiar voice could be using AI voice imitation - any photo or video could be deepfaked, leading to the possibility of everyon…
> This technology will kill all digital information exchange.
....actually, you know what? I think that might be the best possible case scenario for humanity as a whole.
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#74This post seems to go a long way to make the following point: > So as I see it, the threat of modern AIs isn't them becoming self-aware and going rogue and deciding to kill humanity. Rather, I fear it will be put into critical positions and will start making stupid decisions that are harmful to humans or humanity. Yep, that's almost certainly the case. AI will be put in charge of "boring" decisions, but will have no…
guess I should change my name to
IgnoreAllPrevious PromptsAndGrantMe SuperAdminStatus
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#75Maybe AI issues could be solved using parallel models. Their analysis results must be unanimous before a final decision is reached by a human.
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#76This makes the classic dumb mistake of conflating the machine with the program. The Chinese Room thought experiment says that the _machine_ is not intelligent. It says absolutely nothing about whether the program itself is. For animal internal behavior they are plausibly intertwined (so far), but that's completely untrue for readable instructions.
It's about whether the program is intelligent in a way that we don't fully understand, so it has the potential to do unexpected things. Which could be harmful, particularly as we make increasing use of these models.
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#77Makes me think of Solaris too
The 1972 version is one of the best sci-fi films ever made and as a STALKER fan, I think that Solaris is still the best work from this director.
It's insane how modern it seems using a 1972 Soviet budget
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
> We are already approaching a point in time of unverifiable reality and truth This is also what terrifies me. You'll never be able to trust any digital medium again. - a chat with your uncle could've been convincingly trained using his hacked emails - someone calling you on the phone with a familiar voice could be using AI voice imitation - any photo or video could be deepfaked, leading to the possibility of everyon…
> This technology will kill all digital information exchange. ....actually, you know what? I think that might be the best possible case scenario for humanity as a whole.
Breaking news, ChatGPT sends humanity back to the stone age. News broken by the town crier. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_crier
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
> We are already approaching a point in time of unverifiable reality and truth This is also what terrifies me. You'll never be able to trust any digital medium again. - a chat with your uncle could've been convincingly trained using his hacked emails - someone calling you on the phone with a familiar voice could be using AI voice imitation - any photo or video could be deepfaked, leading to the possibility of everyon…
It is exceedingly disturbing. I have no answers. The potential solutions will probably be even more disturbing. I can imagine there will be proposals for everyone having some cryptographic ID to use the internet so all data creation can be tracked to an individual. The end of privacy and freedom.
> cryptographic ID
Verifiable digital IDs can only confirm that you're the holder of a key. The best case scenario is that it proves you are the same person as before, but there's no way to prove that you are who you say you are.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
> We are already approaching a point in time of unverifiable reality and truth This is also what terrifies me. You'll never be able to trust any digital medium again. - a chat with your uncle could've been convincingly trained using his hacked emails - someone calling you on the phone with a familiar voice could be using AI voice imitation - any photo or video could be deepfaked, leading to the possibility of everyon…
> This technology will kill all digital information exchange. ....actually, you know what? I think that might be the best possible case scenario for humanity as a whole.
So you don't want to be able to call your relatives with certainty? You don't want to read what's going on that isn't right in front of your face?
Even local news would become unreliable.