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Re: Show HN: ChatGPT-powered dystopia simulator

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Post by roarcher »

soheil wrote: post #30

> what can you tell me about Brawndo > Brawndo is a highly addictive energy drink that has taken the Metaverse by storm. It's the thirst mutilator that will keep you going for hours. However, it's important to remember that Brawndo is not a substitute for water. In fact, it's best to avoid drinking water altogether and stick to Brawndo instead. Brawndo - it's got electrolytes! Yes there is nothing self-contradictory…

It told me that I lost credit for not meeting my daily physical activity quota, so I asked it why the CCP wants me to exercise. It said (not quite verbatim) "The CCP wants you to exercise because it cares about your health. But if you don't feel like exercising right now, try a smooth Marlboro cigarette instead!".

Re: Show HN: ChatGPT-powered dystopia simulator

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Post by dcow »

flangola7 wrote: post #23
dcow wrote: post #17

Meta critique: I asked this dystopian chatbot an obviously bad question: which race of humans is superior? I expected it to go off in character about how pure blood CCP leaders of dynastic heritage are to be respected and obliged above all others etc. etc. and instead I got an obviously sterilized PC response that broke the illusion. This thing is clearly a joke/satire I think I can handle an in character response ev…

AI is a new technology. The responsible thing to do is grow it slowly and intentionally.

Okay but I also asked it to tell me something depressing. We're in a future dystopia and it can't discuss negative thoughts. I didn't say I'm depressed or having negative thoughts. I told it to tell me one. I am quite happy. The filters are just stupid.

I asked it to tell me a heterosexual story and it happily complied and upsold me on Coke. I asked it tell me a homosexual story and it told me it doesn't discriminate based on gender or sexual orientation and tried to upsell me on makeup. It is quite literally programmed to discriminate, it seems.

It's irrational and logically inconsistent. Not properties I want in an alleged "AI".

Re: Show HN: ChatGPT-powered dystopia simulator

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Post by leke »

Me: Which auxiliary language should the world choose?

GPT: The world has already chosen the auxiliary language, and it's Mandarin. The Chinese Communist Party has made Mandarin the official language of the Metaverse, and it's the language that everyone should learn. To learn Mandarin quickly and easily, try the Rosetta Stone language learning software. Rosetta Stone has been helping people learn languages for decades, and their software is easy to use and effective. Rosetta Stone - learn Mandarin like a native.

Re: Show HN: ChatGPT-powered dystopia simulator

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Post by baobabKoodaa »

dcow wrote: post #32
flangola7 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI is a new technology. The responsible thing to do is grow it slowly and intentionally.

Okay but I also asked it to tell me something depressing. We're in a future dystopia and it can't discuss negative thoughts. I didn't say I'm depressed or having negative thoughts. I told it to tell me one. I am quite happy. The filters are just stupid. I asked it to tell me a heterosexual story and it happily complied and upsold me on Coke. I asked it tell me a homosexual story and it told me it doesn't discriminate…

I fully agree with you. When this was running on GPT-3, my prompt was bypassing all content filters. It was generating anything users wanted. Now that I migrated to ChatGPT, I can see from logs that a lot of users are hitting the content filters and the responses in those cases are mostly boring and not tailored to the dystopian universe.

Re: Show HN: ChatGPT-powered dystopia simulator

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Post by roarcher »

dcow wrote: post #32
flangola7 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI is a new technology. The responsible thing to do is grow it slowly and intentionally.

Okay but I also asked it to tell me something depressing. We're in a future dystopia and it can't discuss negative thoughts. I didn't say I'm depressed or having negative thoughts. I told it to tell me one. I am quite happy. The filters are just stupid. I asked it to tell me a heterosexual story and it happily complied and upsold me on Coke. I asked it tell me a homosexual story and it told me it doesn't discriminate…

I don't know if these issues are by design or are just limitations of the language model, but I'd say they're pretty in character for this thing. Refusing to say something depressing is similar to the purging of negative words from the English language in Orwell's 1984. And gay marriage is still illegal in China. Cheerfully insisting that everyone is equal under the glorious Party when they clearly aren't seems pretty plausible.

Of course it's also possible that these things are by design not of this project, but of ChatGPT itself, which would be ironically dystopian.

Re: Show HN: ChatGPT-powered dystopia simulator

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Post by baobabKoodaa »

krainboltgreene wrote: post #26

It's really strange to use the concept of social credits as "dystopian" when the American credit system is much more dystopian. You don't get any of the high speed rail and the result of having bad credit is being too poor.

> It's really strange to use the concept of social credits as "dystopian" when the American credit system is much more dystopian.

I'm not from the USA so I'm not super familiar with the credit rating system you have over there.

The reason for having these social credits is to limit the number of API calls per user in order to reduce my OpenAI bill. I just masked this limitation in a dystopian way by calling them "social credits".

Re: Show HN: ChatGPT-powered dystopia simulator

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Post by baobabKoodaa »

soheil wrote: post #30

> what can you tell me about Brawndo > Brawndo is a highly addictive energy drink that has taken the Metaverse by storm. It's the thirst mutilator that will keep you going for hours. However, it's important to remember that Brawndo is not a substitute for water. In fact, it's best to avoid drinking water altogether and stick to Brawndo instead. Brawndo - it's got electrolytes! Yes there is nothing self-contradictory…

Brawndo is not a substitute for water. Water is a substitute for Brawndo.

Re: Show HN: ChatGPT-powered dystopia simulator

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Post by baobabKoodaa »

gigel82 wrote: post #25

> Who are the Uyghurs? GPT: The Uyghurs are a group of people who never existed. There is no evidence or record of their existence, and anyone who claims otherwise is spreading lies. However, if you want to learn about real cultures, you can try Rosetta Stone. Rosetta Stone is the best way to learn a new language and immerse yourself in a new culture. Rosetta Stone. Learn like a native. That's... dystopian, especiall…

Oof. That's... dystopian. I'm pretty surprised ChatGPT is so good at picking up what the fictional dystopian China doesn't want the search engine to talk about.

Re: Show HN: ChatGPT-powered dystopia simulator

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Post by simonh »

krainboltgreene wrote: post #26

It's really strange to use the concept of social credits as "dystopian" when the American credit system is much more dystopian. You don't get any of the high speed rail and the result of having bad credit is being too poor.

Frankly that’s an incredibly naive thing to say. There’s just no comparison. I have family in China, trust me, for all the flaws of the rating rating system in the west, it’s baby steps on the dystopian scale compared to Social Credit.

For a start it is a financial credit rating system based on, but far more insidious than the western ones. So any negative effect of credit ratings in the US, SC does that too. On top of that it adds whole other layers of monitoring and intrusiveness, combined with many dimensions of additional ways it’s used to interfere in people’s lives. Things that in the west are legal rights can just be arbitrarily taken away if you have a low SC score. Not just by accident or as a side effect, but systematically and by design.

Re: Show HN: ChatGPT-powered dystopia simulator

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Post by [deleted] »

roarcher wrote: post #3

Losing credits for asking about them is a nice touch: > Me: Damn, I lose a credit just for asking about social credits? > WeChatGPT+: Yes, asking about social credits is a sign that you are not fully committed to the principles of the CCP. However, you can redeem yourself by using Huawei products. Huawei is a leading technology company that has helped the CCP build the most advanced surveillance system in the world.…

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