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U.S. Postal Service starts nationwide electric vehicle fleet, buying 9,250 EVs

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Re: U.S. Postal Service starts nationwide electric vehicle fleet, buying 9,250 EVs

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Post by starkparker »

viraptor wrote: post #13

For comparison, Australia Post went with mostly 3-wheel electric bikes for local deliveries (3100 out of 4100 EVs in the fleet mid 2022). https://auspost.com.au/our-stories/inspiring-stories/sustain... there's a photo in the link. The low noise compared to the previous powered bikes is really nice.

They're Kyburz DXP trikes, specially designed for Australia Post: https://www.kyburz-asia.com/delivery-vehicles/dxp-au

120kg load capacity (270kg with trailer), 50kph max speed, 50-100km range. Curb weight is 315kg, total vehicle weight is 510kg.

For comparison, the USPS NGDV requirements were for a vehicle that could carry a loaded Kyburz DKP (minimum payload capacity of 680kg in 155 cubic ft) at twice the top speed (97kph) for longer operating ranges (110km minimum), all with an 18-29°C cabin temperature range at ambient temps of −34°-49C.

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Post by pests »

viraptor wrote: post #108
Spivak wrote: post #101

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Yeah, I don't know what it's like for your postfellows but that the back of that truck is full up every day.

Isn't that what we want - vehicles that go out full most days? (As long as the number of vehicles or trips cover the average daily flow)

Why does a full truck or a half empty truck matter? The truck is still going out each day regardless.

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Post by wpm »

ed25519FUUU wrote: post #107
xbmcuser wrote: post #54

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Solar and Wind electric production costs are still dropping by 10-15% a year same for batteries. A lot of people and countries don't realise the electricity revolution that is coming. Cost of production for a lot products will start coming down with cheaper electricity.

They don’t realize it because they don’t get any of the benefits. Electricity costs are rising across the country almost without exception. Meanwhile California is paying other states to take electricity because they generate so much excess power during the duck curve (while simultaneously having rolling blackouts)

IL also sells off something like 250MW of excess power but it’s just like that all the time since it’s all coming from our nuclear plants.

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Post by 15155 »

gffrd wrote: post #158
m4rtink wrote: post #94

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Yeah - while it seems easy/logical to just swap a normal delivery vehicle for an electric version of it, you don't really have to do that & electric vehicles do come in many more shapes and sizes due to the might higher flexibility and scalability of the electric power system. For example here in Brno, Czech Republic, the entry to the city center is nowadays quite restrictive for regular cars/vans - a lot of it is a…

For some reason I find it really funny that there are Dominos in the Czech Republic …

There are Dominos everywhere, it's not a laughing matter.

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Post by pugworthy »

rootusrootus wrote: post #97
kube-system wrote: post #66

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EVs are kind of loud these days due to FMVSS No. 141 https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/02/26/2018-03...

As the owner of two EVs, with neighbors that have various EVs and hybrids, I am actually kinda miffed at the new regulations. For a typical appliance car like a Corolla, Camry, or similar, the engine is all but inaudible unless the car is stationary. Once it is past walking speed tires quickly become what you hear. This need to make EVs loud sucks because I was really looking forward to a quieter environment. But no.…

As someone hard of hearing, I'm glad for it.

I've been working in my driveway on something, and had my wife pull up in our EV and I don't know the car is there until she's 4' away. Glad she knew I was there.

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Post by [deleted] »

manquer wrote: post #142
Dalewyn wrote: post #104

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Also loggers, quarrymen, miners, hunters, fishermen... Naw, clearly the world is a metropolis measured in tens of square miles large with fiber internet, supermarkets that spawn stuff on shelves, and electricity dyed green.

wouldn’t the market pay the actual value for all the essential things you mentioned if subsidy is not there and rural cost of living goes up significantly? Instead of of subsidizing, we would merely pay for what we consume isn’t that a better deal ? Both you and the farmer get to choose how the money is being spent ?

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Post by notch898a »

gffrd wrote: post #158
m4rtink wrote: post #94

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Yeah - while it seems easy/logical to just swap a normal delivery vehicle for an electric version of it, you don't really have to do that & electric vehicles do come in many more shapes and sizes due to the might higher flexibility and scalability of the electric power system. For example here in Brno, Czech Republic, the entry to the city center is nowadays quite restrictive for regular cars/vans - a lot of it is a…

For some reason I find it really funny that there are Dominos in the Czech Republic …

As an American I refuse to believe there is anything in Brno but a gigantic Česká zbrojovka factory.

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Post by sarmasamosarma »

fwungy wrote: post #152
avhon1 wrote: post #130

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...why is it so much more than the energy required to charge slowly? The battery might get a little warmer while charging, so that's some more waste heat, but the battery gains the same amount of stored energy either way.

You need bigger transmission lines to fast charge. That's expensive. You need to charge enough at the site to justify the line costs.

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Post by pugworthy »

robshrk wrote: post #65

My neighborhood delivers the mail on foot, while the truck is parked most of the day. The delivery man walks more than a Pacific Crest Trail thru-hiker.

Seems to be at the discretion of the delivery person. Our usual one walks a lot, but there's one sub that literally drives to every house, hops out, delivers.
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