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OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit

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Post by porknubbins »

camillomiller wrote: post #357
IAmNotACellist wrote: post #355

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It is nice to see normies noticing and caring, but the article leaves out some details that obscure comments still stubbornly bring up: like Musk founded it as a 501(c)(3) and put Altman in charge, and only once he had to leave with conflicts of interest Altman founded "OpenAI LP," the for-profit workaround so they didn't have to obey those pesky charity rules. That's when they stopped releasing models and weights, a…

People keep forgetting we're talking about Sam Altman, someone who believed that scanning the world's population retinas in exchange for some crappy digital coin was a great idea and not a creepy spinoff of a shoddy sci-fi novel.

Another thing that worries me is seeing multiple openAI founders on twitter making grand predictions about the future of AI instead of staying humble and keeping their head down and letting the product speak for itself. That is not how serious engineers usually talk, sounds more like wannabe monopolists to me.

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Post by random314 »

kunalgupta wrote: post #220
random314 wrote: post #183

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The worst part is that Altman had nothing to do with the success of Open AI. He simply failed upwards into this job, thanks to his Paul Graham friendship and YC connection. We will see Altman all over the place while all the hardwork was done by actual scientists at Open AI who have barely spoken.

His “YC connection” was running YC and being responsible for making it something like 100 times bigger than it was before him?

Yes. YC was very well established when he took over after failing with Loopt. YC is paulg and Morris brainchild. You might want to check on the 100X number again. And that's not how success is measured anyway.

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Post by hot_gril »

honkler wrote: post #516
hot_gril wrote: post #324

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It originally meant "based on your own beliefs," usually in the context of sticking to your guns despite unpopularity. Which is/was the cool thing to express on 4chan.

nah. 4chan learnt it from the rap song "Based God".

It meant the same thing in "Based God." I know 4chan didn't invent the phrase.

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Post by honkler »

hot_gril wrote: post #534
honkler wrote: post #516

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nah. 4chan learnt it from the rap song "Based God".

It meant the same thing in "Based God." I know 4chan didn't invent the phrase.

Based in that means "being intoxicated with cocaine".

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Post by Hadriel »

stephencoyner wrote: post #365

What I take away from listening to Sam talk is that in the beginning of Open AI, they didn’t think big compute would be as important as it has become. It becomes very hard to not have profit incentives when you need to run gigantic supercomputers to push the technology forward. This explains the MS partnership and need to generate profit to fund the training and running of future models. This doesn’t explain everythi…

I wanna hear what Elon has to say about this. Was this why he left?

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Post by hot_gril »

honkler wrote: post #535
hot_gril wrote: post #534

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It meant the same thing in "Based God." I know 4chan didn't invent the phrase.

Based in that means "being intoxicated with cocaine".

Lil B said it's both: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Based%20God But only because he changed the meaning. Didn't realize there was an older one too.

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Post by hot_gril »

peyton wrote: post #530
hot_gril wrote: post #324

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It originally meant "based on your own beliefs," usually in the context of sticking to your guns despite unpopularity. Which is/was the cool thing to express on 4chan.

What? It’s from the 80s and means high on crack (freebase) and was re-popularized by Based God like 10–15 years ago.

Yep, didn't know about the crack meaning. Based God made it what it is today.

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Post by wodenokoto »

permo-w wrote: post #236
wodenokoto wrote: post #78

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Key word being "had". He is not part of it any more. >In 2018, Musk resigned his board seat, citing "a potential future conflict [of interest]" with his role as CEO of Tesla due to Tesla's AI development for self-driving cars, but remained a donor I don't think he counts as an investor, and I'd imagine he has stopped donating.

this is pedantic, but the parent comment was conjugating "to have" to "had" via the subjunctive, not via the past tense

I don’t know what a subjunctive is. Maybe that is what caused the confusion.

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Post by jrm4 »

goodpoint wrote: post #492
jrm4 wrote: post #337

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Are there any companies like Docker? They feel like such a Black Swan to me; namely -- "billions" + very useful + pretty much "not evil " at all. I literally can't think of any others. I don't mean "literally evil" of course, I personally acknowledge the need to make money et al, but I mean it even seems like your most Stallman-esque types wouldn't have too much of a problem with Docker?

> Are there any companies like Docker? Let's hope not. > "not evil" at all Sarcasm?

Not awesome, but nowhere near the definite evil I've seen from Microsoft, Oracle, Amazon, etc....
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