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Less than half of California students read or do math at grade level

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Re: Less than half of California students read or do math at grade level

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Wouldn't the grade level be defined by the median student?

I presume "grade level" was defined by the median student some time ago and has not been adjusted since. The fact that it's going down seems like bad news.

EDIT: It seems the headline is misleading and my take is not accurate.

Re: Less than half of California students read or do math at grade level

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Wouldn't the grade level be defined by the median student?

Grade level comprehension is an expectation set by the state. Having some standard to aim for gives us a better understanding of if students are generally regressing or progressing.

We're able to see tread lines over time, and raise alarms like this headline, when we know that students now are not learning as much as students of the past.

Re: Less than half of California students read or do math at grade level

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This data is from the California Dept of Education. I wonder if other states track this also.

My guess is that some states don't even bother, and their students likely don't perform as well. Then there are other states, small ones like Connecticut, Rhode Island and Vermont, whose students might fall on the high side of the curve.

Just a guess. Anyone know?

Re: Less than half of California students read or do math at grade level

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According to state testing? I was an A student (as were many of my peers) but you'd best believe we dicked around with anything that we were told wouldn't affect our letter grades (e.g. state testing).

I wondered this a lot when I was a student in the 2000s. What fraction of kids take the tests seriously? What fraction put in the same effort as they would into their academic tests?

I had some friends who were poor students and didn't care much about school. I doubt these people put in much or any effort at all into these tests. I was a good student, but at a certain point I got burnt out too. It wasn't worth reading the 10th literature passage extra carefully, nor checking my work on each math problem. These tests are long and don't impact me: why should I give it my all?

Re: Less than half of California students read or do math at grade level

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As a California resident, I'm surprised there's no mention of % of ESL (english as a second language) students. There's a very large population of ESL students in California that drag down these statistics as the students catch up.

If english isn't your primary language, learning math that is taught in english will also be more difficult.

Re: Less than half of California students read or do math at grade level

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Looking at the history this doesn’t seem abnormal, and it hovers around 49%. This implies to me median is determined to be grade level (essentially) and it hasn’t moved materially beyond this point since the data was compiled and the entirely arbitrary definition of “grade level” was declared.

Would be interesting to see other states but it wasn’t immediately obvious if a similar dataset exists for anywhere else.

Given all this it seems entirely unclear if this should be viewed in some subjective sense as “good” or “bad.” It just seems to reflect things are “normal.”

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