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OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit

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Re: OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit

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Post by panick21_ »

z3c0 wrote: post #80
panick21_ wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean if its true and he has 100 million followers and he has only 10000ish impression then there is something seriously wrong. Because that flat out makes no sense. Even if you assume 60% bods, and 70% of users not reading their timeline.

Is it though? Just because somebody follows Musk does not mean they engage with his content enough for it to be floated up past everything else they may follow. It's very likely that a great deal of those followers don't find his content interesting, but don't find it objectionable enough to unfollow him.

I mean, an impression counts views normally right? It would seem strange that so few people saw the tweet.

Its also the case that he usually gets quite a few retweets and often lots of responses as well. So the number just seem low to me.

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Post by jackmott42 »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #91
asah wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yay for competition.

Stability straight up proved that OpenAIs ideas around the importance of locking the tech up and guard railing it is all a big waste of time. The world didn’t end when anyone could run Dall-E 2 level image gen on gamer hardware and without guardrails. Instead we got to integrate that power into tools like Blender, Photoshop, Krita etc for free. First company to democratize ChatGPT tech in the same way will own this s…

I generate Dall-E 2 level images on gamer hardware without guardrails.

Re: OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit

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Post by shaunsingh0207 »

poisonborz wrote: post #129

I get the rage, but honestly, could have OpenAI reach its goals, this product, if it stayed non-profit? If it wouldn't have gotten this money? How much capital, progress did it have before and after switching the status? The article says directly that they got 1B from Microsoft right after the change. Every previous OpenAI thread on HN is filled how expensive is it to train and run these models, yet we somehow expect…

It couldn't have, they've mentioned before the change in business model was out of neccessity. I don't think they wouldn've signed away so much of their rights if they didn't really need that azure hardware either.

Re: OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit

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Post by yawboakye »

prepend wrote: post #113

I like that the corporate bullshit just keeps getting more. Google’s “don’t be evil” is many steps down from openai having open in their name. They should be called Open AI with ( not open) in small print. I argue a lot over “open source” software with non-OSI license and sometimes worry if I’m too pedantic. But I think it’s important to use terms accurately and not to confuse reality more than it already is by calli…

they acquired the ai.com domain. perhaps in preparation to correct the accident (of having `open` in their name) once and for all?

Re: OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit

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Post by rippercushions »

mellosouls wrote: post #20

This seems an important article, if for no other reason than it brings the betrayal of its foundational claim still brazenly present in OpenAI's name from the obscurity of HN comments going back years into the public light and the mainstream. They've achieved marvellous things, OpenAI, but the pivot and long-standing refusal to deal with it honestly leaves an unpleasant taste, and doesn't bode well for the future, es…

To quote Spaceballs, they're not doing it for money, they're doing it for a shitload of money.

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Post by newyankee »

olalonde wrote: post #103
Lionga wrote: post #39

Nice grift by Sam Altman taking all the donations and good will a non profit gets just to flip 180. He probably would have done the same with his crypto scam startup worldcoin if it would not have failed in every way before he could scam.

It's weird to me that this is even possible legally (turning a nonprofit into a for-profit).

Anything is possible if you are powerful enough and have the world's biggest companies competing for your product.

My worry is that even a half baked AI can produce useful wonders in many fields like healthcare, however useful amounts of data will now only be accessible and available to powerful players. Probably OpenAI did the bait and switch to get many competing sides on the same page.

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Post by yawboakye »

pavlov wrote: post #16
3D29021196 wrote: post #11

Step by step, ever since the calling the diver a "pedo", every since the "funding secured" i've began to realise just how petty and pathetic elon is. Every opportunity he has he seems to show just how vindictive he really is. Man child who now has way too much money. Buying Twitter on a whim is the latest in a string of decisions which do not align with the "let's get to Mars and save earths environment" stuff he lik…

He's lost himself in the fake popularity of being a social media celebrity. He started believing that having 100 million followers on a web site really means that a continent's worth of people adore you. For all his complaints about bots after he got cold feet on the Twitter purchase, he seems strangely naïve about how social media really works and what's real there. “This is ridiculous,” he said, according to multip…

he uses his account to announce product features as well. in that sense, it won't be any different than artificially boosting tweets by elected officials to ensure they get the attention they deserve. unfortunately, the user can put the personal back in personal account and tweet many things unrelated to their office (or in elon's case, twitter product updates). unfair use of privilege. but just as you previously argued that twitter is just a website, this sleight shouldn't get more than the attention it needs.

Re: OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit

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Post by falcor84 »

The article mentions the following without any specific citation:

> Google, for example, has highlighted the efficiency gains from AI that autocompletes code, as it lays off thousands of workers.

Does anyone here have a reference for this? Is this from a particular press release?

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