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OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit

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Re: OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit

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Post by pavlov »

pc_edwin wrote: post #62
pavlov wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's lost himself in the fake popularity of being a social media celebrity. He started believing that having 100 million followers on a web site really means that a continent's worth of people adore you. For all his complaints about bots after he got cold feet on the Twitter purchase, he seems strangely naïve about how social media really works and what's real there. “This is ridiculous,” he said, according to multip…

It has become evident that placing one's trust in mainstream media is an exercise in futility, as they are often found to be biased in their reporting against tech. Elon Musk's claim regarding the algorithm flaw resulting in his de-ranking was indeed accurate. The feature was intended to lower the ranking of frequently being blocked accounts. However, the flaw was that it did not account for larger accounts, allowing…

What’s mainstream media in this case? The Verge, a web-only publication that only writes about tech? Seems like stretching the definition beyond any usefulness…

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Post by panick21_ »

pavlov wrote: post #76
panick21_ wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean if its true and he has 100 million followers and he has only 10000ish impression then there is something seriously wrong. Because that flat out makes no sense. Even if you assume 60% bods, and 70% of users not reading their timeline.

We don’t know how long the tweet in question had been up. 5 minutes? An hour? Without this information it’s impossible to guess about the reasons because impressions accumulate over time.

Agree. I not taking him at his word that he is correct, and of course we would need more data. But it does sound strange.

My problem with all these twitter reporting reminds me of Tesla a few years ago, people just wildly extrapolating and infering from tiny amount of information and then deriving prove that Musk is a piece of shit and the company is going down in flames.

The first can be argued, but the second doesn't seem to be happening nearly as much as people claim.

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Post by detrites »

Veen wrote: post #43
5350-uiop-1130 wrote: post #29

capitalism ruins everything. imagine speed of improvement in AI if everything was open sourced, instead of guarding their little secrets. i hope google get f**, hoarding AI knowledge for years, only got shaken after recent events force them.

Do you know of any open source projects with the approximately $5 million it takes to train GPT3? Do you think the AI scientists who invented the underlying techniques would do so without being paid? No, Google and others paid for these people's work. Even if OpenAI was open source and still a non-profit, its funding would come from the profit generated by corporations and the wealth of individuals who became rich th…

Most crypto projects? (Half /s...)

But seriously, the buzz around ChatGPT is huge. Anyone could step in with a crowdfunding campaign to raise that if they promised the right things.

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Post by mananaysiempre »

tokai wrote: post #52
thezultimate wrote: post #38

Rebrand OpenAI to CloseAI. Problem solved :)

clopenAI

You do realize that’s an actual word? :) In topology, a thing is called connected if it contains no proper subset that’s open and closed at the same time, aka clopen subset.

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Post by selestify »

mellosouls wrote: post #25
toyg wrote: post #18

If someone can make money off something, after achieving global visibility, they will - it's almost an iron law. The only exceptions I can think of are Wikipedia, Archive.org, and Wikileaks.

Unfortunately all of those have their own ethical issues, commercial corruption is not the only challenge to well-intentioned initiatives when meeting scale.

What are some unethical things about Wikipedia or archive.org?

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Post by geokon »

zirgs wrote: post #57
Veen wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you know of any open source projects with the approximately $5 million it takes to train GPT3? Do you think the AI scientists who invented the underlying techniques would do so without being paid? No, Google and others paid for these people's work. Even if OpenAI was open source and still a non-profit, its funding would come from the profit generated by corporations and the wealth of individuals who became rich th…

Stable Diffusion is a project like that. It cost millions to develop it. It is free, open source and can be run locally.

Are you sure? According to Wikipedia it's "source available"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stable_Diffusion

It seems to come with a laundry list of vague restrictions

Re: OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit

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Post by sgdpk »

auggierose wrote: post #75
Lionga wrote: post #39

Nice grift by Sam Altman taking all the donations and good will a non profit gets just to flip 180. He probably would have done the same with his crypto scam startup worldcoin if it would not have failed in every way before he could scam.

Did worldcoin fail or shut down? Is there an article about that? It seems they stopped operating in a few countries in March 2022, anything beyond that?

I still see these guys in Lisbon's main train station trying to get new customers. They also seem to do some sort of face scan for new customers.
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