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OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit

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Re: OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit

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Step by step, ever since the calling the diver a "pedo", every since the "funding secured" i've began to realise just how petty and pathetic elon is. Every opportunity he has he seems to show just how vindictive he really is. Man child who now has way too much money. Buying Twitter on a whim is the latest in a string of decisions which do not align with the "let's get to Mars and save earths environment" stuff he lik…

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This comment is magnificently self-unaware

Re: OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit

#32

Step by step, ever since the calling the diver a "pedo", every since the "funding secured" i've began to realise just how petty and pathetic elon is. Every opportunity he has he seems to show just how vindictive he really is. Man child who now has way too much money. Buying Twitter on a whim is the latest in a string of decisions which do not align with the "let's get to Mars and save earths environment" stuff he lik…

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> if your comment feels good to write, it's often a red flag

I'm not new to HN and I don't think any such rule of thumb exists. Writing vindictive flame comments is one thing, but writing a measured opinion of someone's actions is another. Your comment sounds condescending and I don't think it accurately represents the community's mindset here.

Re: OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"OpenAI was created as an open source (which is why I named it “Open” AI), non-profit company to serve as a counterweight to Google, but now it has become a closed source, maximum-profit company effectively controlled by Microsoft. Not what I intended at all." - Elon You can think what you want of Elon, but he is in the right here.

As much as I agree with what he's saying here, it seems a little insincere when all the tesla ai stuff is closed source.

Since when was Tesla created to be open-source and non-profit?

Re: OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit

#34

capitalism ruins everything. imagine speed of improvement in AI if everything was open sourced, instead of guarding their little secrets. i hope google get f**, hoarding AI knowledge for years, only got shaken after recent events force them.

Everything open source = No copyright and ownership of produced models.

That's a sure-fire way of guaranteeing only Government funding, free labour, donations and oh so much politics of various forms. And I don't think the "speed of improvement" will increase, I'd say it'd slow to a crawl as there would be no money in it.

Re: OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit

#35
post #18

If someone can make money off something, after achieving global visibility, they will - it's almost an iron law. The only exceptions I can think of are Wikipedia, Archive.org, and Wikileaks.

Also almost every big open-source project? ffmpeg?

OAI is not bad for being for profit, it is bad for the bait and switch. They started off with "Open" and still have it in their name even as they turned into the next Microsoft.

Re: OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So the real reason behind him buying Twitter was to force the entire site to be his followers? Lmao.

This is pretty plainly obvious to anyone who has been a Twitter user throughout this whole thing. I was (was) a daily user for the last ~8 years. Then a few months ago all of the sudden like half my timeline was either elons tweets or tweets about elon. I don’t follow him and never have. But there he was, all over my timeline.

I have been using Twitter for 12 years and this has not been "obvious" to me at all. You shouldn't assume that your opinions are obvious or even shared by the majority of people you mention.

Re: OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit

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> if your comment feels good to write, it's often a red flag I'm not new to HN and I don't think any such rule of thumb exists. Writing vindictive flame comments is one thing, but writing a measured opinion of someone's actions is another. Your comment sounds condescending and I don't think it accurately represents the community's mindset here.

Their comment could have been replaced with “Elon bad” and it wouldn’t change the delta of how much you’ve learned from reading it. It was little more than a vindictive flame comment.

As for being condescending, I’ve often wondered how Dan manages not to sound condescending when explaining the philosophy behind why the rules are in place. It’s true that he’s articulate in a way that I probably can’t match.

But if you ask him, I’ll bet you money he’d agree that the Elon flame was a net negative.

I wanted to try something other than “downvote and move on,” since they’re new to the site. Maybe that was a mistake.

Re: OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit

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post #4

I find it a little odd that Elon seems to take a swipe at OpenAI any opportunity he gets. If he cares so much about them not making money, maybe he should have put his twitter cash there instead? It's reassuring to me that the two people running policy work at the big AI "startups", Jack Clark (Anthropic) and Miles Brundage (OpenAI, who was hired by Jack iirc), are genuinely good humans. I've known Jack for 10 years…

I tend to disagree with almost everything Elon but he seems to be right on this one, no?
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