OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit
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#3In my opinion, I think it was kind of inevitable. Once OpenAI proved that AI could create genuinely meaningful outputs and then other companies started doing it for profit, and of course taking into account the costs of trying to run the thing itself, it was only a matter of time.
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#4I find it a little odd that Elon seems to take a swipe at OpenAI any opportunity he gets. If he cares so much about them not making money, maybe he should have put his twitter cash there instead? It's reassuring to me that the two people running policy work at the big AI "startups", Jack Clark (Anthropic) and Miles Brundage (OpenAI, who was hired by Jack iirc), are genuinely good humans. I've known Jack for 10 years and he's for sure a measured and reasonable person who cares about not doing harm. Although I don't know Miles, my understanding is he has similar qualities. If they're gonna be for profit, I feel this is really important.
Edit: Well, I guess these tweets explain the beef well -
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1606642155346612229
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1626516035863212034
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#5Historically speaking, the pivot to capitalism occurs from financing arrangements. Financial obligations mandate attention, overriding charters or missions. Hospitals in America took on financing to replace decaying facilities and just like that turned towards for-profit healthcare. Universities as well. There is no escaping financial servitude because the organization never can earn enough to get out of its financial obligations and restructure itself to never take that path again. Once the change from non-profit to for-profit happens, it is never reversed.
OpenAI has one shot at fulfilling social mission and financing will ruin any hopes or dreams it has of taking the non-profit path. It needs to ignore pressure for exponential growth for the sake of competition or whatever strategists see as a threat or opportunity, because adopting their frame demands financing.
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#6Given the amount of compute required to run their models, as well as Microsoft’s investment into the company through providing Azure services, it is quite likely they’ll be acquired by Microsoft.
Re: OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit
#7Given the amount of compute required to run their models, as well as Microsoft’s investment into the company through providing Azure services, it is quite likely they’ll be acquired by Microsoft.
Microsoft just bought in to own 49% in January
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#9I find it a little odd that Elon seems to take a swipe at OpenAI any opportunity he gets. If he cares so much about them not making money, maybe he should have put his twitter cash there instead? It's reassuring to me that the two people running policy work at the big AI "startups", Jack Clark (Anthropic) and Miles Brundage (OpenAI, who was hired by Jack iirc), are genuinely good humans. I've known Jack for 10 years…
"OpenAI was created as an open source (which is why I named it “Open” AI), non-profit company to serve as a counterweight to Google, but now it has become a closed source, maximum-profit company effectively controlled by Microsoft.
Not what I intended at all." - Elon
You can think what you want of Elon, but he is in the right here.
Re: OpenAI is now everything it promised not to be: closed-source and for-profit
#10I find it a little odd that Elon seems to take a swipe at OpenAI any opportunity he gets. If he cares so much about them not making money, maybe he should have put his twitter cash there instead? It's reassuring to me that the two people running policy work at the big AI "startups", Jack Clark (Anthropic) and Miles Brundage (OpenAI, who was hired by Jack iirc), are genuinely good humans. I've known Jack for 10 years…
Could you sum up the beefs if it is relevant? I ignore twitter as much as I can.
Part of me feels that in the run to more privacy, we don’t really have a reputation system anymore. You mention that Jack and Miles are good people, but how can we know such things as a general public?
In the days of yore and people were local you kind of new who was who. In the global space, this becomes hard. I feel this ties in with discussions on trust and leaning into people who are responsible and wise.