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The work is getting done isn't it?
Maybe it’s more important that you personally do the work than the work get done.
Tell me a scenario where that is true that isn't from a contrived institution like K-12.
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#142> In short, anything for which there is an established, documented, the standard operating procedure will be transformed first. Work that requires original thought, sophisticated reasoning, and advanced strategy will be much less affected in the immediate term.
then goes on to say that programmers are next.
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Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t virtually all tests and exams designed to minimize ambiguity, make them fair or easy to grade and questions are designed to have a clear correct answer? This is a stark difference to most real-world human activity. Add to the fact that LLMs perform much better on questions with a lot of training data. And also add the hallucinations or more generally: they don’t ask for help or admi…
> And we’re about to plug them straight into critical business flows? Anyone who thinks this is a problem has never managed flesh-and-blood employees, and especially not minimum wage ones. LLMs don't need to be perfect. The bar they need to meet for a lot of work is just not very high. We're also about a year or two into LLMs, and their capabilities are still increasing rapidly. We don't know where their ceiling is.…
> Anyone who thinks this is a problem has never managed flesh-and-blood employees, and especially not minimum wage ones.
I’ve worked with minimum wage employees. I’ve even worked with people who insist against all evidence and questioning that basic facts about reality like the year are contrary to known reality.
I’ve never in my now very aging career worked with any such person who can influence billions of people by interaction on a tremendously popular website.
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#145So much for "Open" AI. Open-source algorithm? No. Open access for free, or reasonable prices? No. Open emails and conversations of directors (accountability)? No. Open conversations of issues and ethics? No.
Open access for a fee? Yes. The original point of openAI was to make sure google and facebook don't completely dominate AI and keep their work hidden due to the innovator's dilemma they face. Seems like they've absolutely accomplished that. Yes, they've stretched the meaning of "open" but I don't think they've ever tried to claim they had some sort of open source aspirations.
They claimed a lot of things. Open source, non-profit. Then they changed their minds on all of them.
As for open access, that's usually defined as free of charge. E.g open access journals.
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In many jurisdictions that kind of subtle product placement is not legal.
How do you prove that it happens and is not an artifact of the training data?
If it went to court, in the discovery process the defendant will have to turn over internal emails etc.
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Why would you start a company that is entirely dependent on a third party’s closed product, over which you have zero control? This just feels immensely risky.
Realistically, if you start a business, there are tons of such dependencies. If that's too scary for you, you're probably too risk adverse to be an entrepreneur.
I don't know how to get $78,000 and it's asinine that you would assume that isn't a hurdle for anyone.
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#148It looks like OpenAI's first mover advantage won't last long, considering the speed at which these models are improving and compacting themselves. Seems like this new 'Moore's law' will be even more steep, at least in the beginning . So steep, that we can hope to be running these in our desktops instead of on someone else's computer.
We saw the same phenomenon with DALL-E. It was state-of-the-art for a blip in time before Midjourney and StableDiffusion surpassed it. And now with ControlNet + the ecosystem of domain-specific models, if you're doing serious generative art, OpenAI isn't even a part of the conversation. If OpenAI makes their revenue off of charging exorbitant fees to use the LLMs, they'll no longer have incentive to ever open them (e…
They do pay for the compute time in some way or another so surely they have the same incentive as everybody else to make it more efficient, at least, to increase their margin.
But yeah, they probably need to evolve from a (very good) two-trick pony into "the microsoft of AI" or something to stay afloat in the long run. That goes for the rest of the smaller AI companies as well though..
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#149>Handle customer interactions – natural language Q&A, appointment setting, account management, and even tech support, available 24/7, pick up right where you left off, and switch from text to voice as needed. Customer service and experience will improve dramatically. For example, Microsoft will let companies create their own custom versions of ChatGPT — read here. If I can prompt-hack your ChatGPT customer service ag…
>And if the answer is "obviously it's not binding!", why should I trust anything else your bot tells me?
Well... I dunno that your trust of the bot is all that important. You may or may not trust the human chat support... but you're probably dealing with them because you want something from the company and that's the option you have.
Customer support is the place where cost cutting, timesaving, scale enabling compromises are made.
Often, the dynamic is literally "if support is better, more people will use it and we can't afford that."
I think the bottleneck is companies trusting chatgpt, not consumers. They're the ones making these decisions. For consumers, this is just another "use the app."
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#150> This really should not be a surprise, because even the standard-issue ChatGPT can pass the Bar Exam No, it can’t. The two things that together have sometimes gotten misrepresented that way in “game of telephone” presentations are: (1) that when tested on the multiple choice component of the multistate bar exam (not the whole bar exam), it got passing grades in two subjects (evidence and torts), not the whole multip…
That's not even the important point. ChatGPT can't do anything. It exhibits behavior that was already encapsulated into the semantics of language itself. The only behavior ChatGPT has is to generate semantic continuations from its implicit language model. Every other behavior is a feature of language, not of ChatGPT. Even if ChatGPT could exhibit a passing exam, that would be the feature of carefully curated language…
If a human passed the bar exam, it is because he trained for it and the knowledge is encoded in his brain. The distinction you're trying to make doesn't exist. ChatGPT is what it can do.