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Nvidia’s latest GPU drivers can upscale old blurry YouTube videos

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One day, the future may regard YouTube, as BBC, who recycled and overwrote Dr Who tapes to save a few bucks. And lost handsomely as a result.

in fact, unfortunately, almost every TV station did that in that time, some of them preserved their material on film, but unfortunately not all of their material

TV station?

Dr Who wasn't a daily, TV station talk show, and Studios tend to archive.

The BBC gets the footnote in history, here.

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It is interesting that youtube is silently removing the ability to watch old videos in HD after making it difficult to sort by oldest on a channel. I have videos uploaded in 1080p 5 or so years ago now only giving the option to watch in 360p. Anyone else notice this?

I should probably download all the old music videos I care about before it's too late

https://old.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/ is your best friend.

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It is interesting that youtube is silently removing the ability to watch old videos in HD after making it difficult to sort by oldest on a channel. I have videos uploaded in 1080p 5 or so years ago now only giving the option to watch in 360p. Anyone else notice this?

That should be a warning to people who think YouTube and Alphabet by extension has any interest in archiving knowledge for the greater good. This is commercial interest and commercial cost cutting.

While I have some sympathy with this position I think it's worth remembering that there's a huge long-tail of absolute rubbish on YouTube.

The fact that they keep it around, for free, over years and years, and at no cost to the user is remarkable to me.

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That should be a warning to people who think YouTube and Alphabet by extension has any interest in archiving knowledge for the greater good. This is commercial interest and commercial cost cutting.

While I have some sympathy with this position I think it's worth remembering that there's a huge long-tail of absolute rubbish on YouTube. The fact that they keep it around, for free, over years and years, and at no cost to the user is remarkable to me.

Expecting any company to store infinite content for free forever is a bit of a curious expectation

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It doesn't make much economic sense for millions of people to upscale vs YouTube doing it once and storing the output.

I think you would need to understand in some detail the makeup of all the content on YouTube before you can make that choice.

As a hypothetical example, say yt had one user and 1 billion years of video. It makes a lot more sense for that one user to do up scaling than it does for yt to transcode all that video. The reverse is also true i.e. 1 video, 1 billion users = yt should do a lot of transcoding.

The real solution (in the economic sense of minimising overall cost) is probably a compromise where yt transcode their most popular content, and if you're interested in the long tail of unpopular content then you can invest in upscaling.

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With the first-party NVidia drivers? I've never had that happen or even heard of it happening before now. Admittedly I don't use Ubuntu much, and they sound like the kind of distro that would silently auto-update your kernel or something, which would produce that kind of failure mode? (Which is at least a clean immediate failure on reboot that you can fix immediately, rather than something that crashes in the middle…

Yes, the .run drivers from Nvidia. It only happens on a reboot, not while I'm using it, and only maybe once a month, but it's still annoying because I have to ssh in to reinstall the drivers every time. And here I was all hyped that AMD would be my savior. I hope you're wrong!! I'll find out for myself the next time I upgrade and I switch the current AMD card that I'm using on my Windows PC into the ubuntu system.

Using the driver from their site is the number one way to fuck up your system. There has got to be an nvidia package on Ubuntu.

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I've been blown away at the AI upscaling on the Nvidia Shield. On my fairly large 4K TV, the Shield can produce picture quality that looks incredible out of source that isn't all that great. On that note, the Shield has been an unexpectedly great purchase over the years. Long life of support from Nvidia, runs Google TV, works incredibly as a gaming console for Steam Linking into my PC and/or playing compatible Androi…

Could you give an example of a TV show that blew you away when processed with Nvidia Shield's upscaling? I tried the feature while streaming HBO's Sopranos, going from 1080p to 4k and it didn't look any better to me, just slightly different with occasional artifacts. I didn't understand the hype around this feature. I believe how good your TV's native upscaling will also be a factor in how improved the Shield's imple…

Others agree with you:

> The Shield upscaler works, but if you have an eye for quality it is terrible. The sharpening it uses leaves a very noticeable sharpening ring around edges, most noticeable on animated content. It will also cause weird artifacts to pop up on live action content.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/11e7e2h/rtx_video_s...

Re: Nvidia’s latest GPU drivers can upscale old blurry YouTube videos

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That should be a warning to people who think YouTube and Alphabet by extension has any interest in archiving knowledge for the greater good. This is commercial interest and commercial cost cutting.

While I have some sympathy with this position I think it's worth remembering that there's a huge long-tail of absolute rubbish on YouTube. The fact that they keep it around, for free, over years and years, and at no cost to the user is remarkable to me.

Yes, YouTube is quite good if your data is absolute rubbish and you’re pleasantly surprised by anything less than full deletion.

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I've been blown away at the AI upscaling on the Nvidia Shield. On my fairly large 4K TV, the Shield can produce picture quality that looks incredible out of source that isn't all that great. On that note, the Shield has been an unexpectedly great purchase over the years. Long life of support from Nvidia, runs Google TV, works incredibly as a gaming console for Steam Linking into my PC and/or playing compatible Androi…

I also have an Nvidia shield that now sits unused for the simple reason that Google forced ads onto the home screen. It used to be that the Shield was the one bastion away from ads on Android TV, then with one update that somehow manages to reinstall itself despite being completely disconnected from the internet, there are now permanently ads on my Nvidia Shield TV. I honestly don't know why it's such a big deal for…

I was on the verge of buying a Shield but this has put me off.

Re: Nvidia’s latest GPU drivers can upscale old blurry YouTube videos

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I've just tried this and I can't tell any difference. Could it be because my laptop has an Intel and an nVidia 3060 I wonder?

I had to turn it on manually under Nvidia control panel. My GPU used roughly 100W more while playing a video on any of the super resolution settings, so it is definitely working when turned on. I didn't do rigorous testing of video source quality though.

The idea is cool, but I'm going to leave it off since I don't think I'll get much benefit out of it.

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