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Investment Firm Y Combinator Goes on Offensive Against Hollywood

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you're missing the point completely. any replacement has to succeed because it's better than hollywood. something even more awesome will come along and replace it. the argument is not "lets all share files until they go bankrupt"; it's "there is change afoot; whoever can make the awesomest, most loved art / entertainment of the next wave will win big". you're not a special flower. the stuff you like is mass market. y…

> any replacement has to succeed because it's better than hollywood. something even more awesome will come along and replace it Don’t forget, when it comes along, it will probably appear to be worse than hollywood, just as text messaging is worse than email and email is worse than an express envelope. That’s the nature of a disruption. It’s obviously worse. Until, after the fact, everyone suddenly claims it’s so much…

It's worth keeping in mind that The Wire is a product of HBO, and cable TV. They are now well established, but they were once upstarts in their own way.

HBO got its start showing rewarmed mainstream Hollywood movies, months or more after their theatrical releasee. This though was enough to make them one of the few bright spots on the vast wasteland of Gilligan's Island and Bewitched reruns that was cable TV. For that, cable operators were able to extract a premium. From there, they branched out into various bits of original programming.

Then came original programming like Oz, Sopranos, the Wire. This was TV that people regarded as art, and as art, superior to anything on network television and hollywood movies.

Other examples to consider, early Miramax and Merchant/Ivory.

Re: Investment Firm Y Combinator Goes on Offensive Against Hollywood

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you're missing the point completely. any replacement has to succeed because it's better than hollywood. something even more awesome will come along and replace it. the argument is not "lets all share files until they go bankrupt"; it's "there is change afoot; whoever can make the awesomest, most loved art / entertainment of the next wave will win big". you're not a special flower. the stuff you like is mass market. y…

"there is change afoot; whoever can make the awesomest, most loved art / entertainment of the next wave will win big" I think the reason this ycomb call to action is going to fizzle out is because all you excited engineers keep using this language - "art" or "entertainment." Hollywood doesn't produce entertainment. It tells stories. It's an industry of stories. Stories are deep and primal. Entertainment is distractio…

Moonbot studios and their iPad interactive books might be a model for the next wave of storytelling entertainment. Although, the people doing those are film veterans, and an obvious exit would be a sale of the company to Disney... so it might not change much.

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One guy will never have the talent to do it all at a top level. Even if there's incredible automation, there will still be choices to be made. The choices are of a diverse enough nature that specialization will still trump a jack of all trades.

I'm sure that most of the time it will require a small team instead of one guy. But, I think you overestimate the quality of a Hollywood blockbuster. Imagine if you put Steven Spielburg in front of a hypothetical movie machine. A machine that could automate everything down to the actors and voices, so all the director had to do was write the script, place everything, and direct all the action (yes I realize something…

Indeed, film is not just all direction and writing, handed down from above, and the rest falls into place. Directors often work with the same groups of people on their team, and it's not just because of nepotism or working familiarity -- Christopher Doyle brings as much to each Wong Kar Wai film as the director himself; Bela Tarr leaves the music completely up to Mihaly Vig (an integral part of his movies).

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How much money do indy film makers need for a minimum viable product? How can we help them bring it to an audience and make money?

Generally much more than YC hands out. Keep in mind that filmmaking has lots of equipment and other costs, whereas you can do a software startup just with a computer, lots of time, and some place to park yourself.

Re: Investment Firm Y Combinator Goes on Offensive Against Hollywood

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In the risk of being down voted to hell, this whole thing seems completely misguided to me. I love the product that hollywood produces. I love great movies and great TV. I frankly think "The Wire" is the best example of story telling I know of. I can think of nothing that silicon valley has produced that even comes close. If Zynga disappeared tomorrow, I could care less, and Hollywood and Zynga are both selling enter…

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