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Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by e12e » Tue, Feb 28, 2023, 4:20 PM UTC

galangalalgol wrote: post #81

mabbo wrote: post #72

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270mg of caffeine and 112ml of alcohol per 750ml bottle. Like three strong coffees and seven shots of vodka in a single serving. I truly think it ought to be taxed heavily to repay the costs that society bares for it's existence.

Surely they don't market it as a single serving!? It is fairly weak as far as fortified wines go, but you typically don't drink a whole bottle... As far as the caffeine, the whole bottle has less than a scoop of most pre-workout.

Market it? No. Then again:

> A diet of four bottles a day has been described as 'not conducive to a long life' in a Scottish court.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by kergonath » Tue, Feb 28, 2023, 4:22 PM UTC

flurie wrote: post #116

AceJohnny2 wrote: post #12

Chartreuse is a bit weird in that it's a kind of joint partnership between an isolationist monastery [1] and a liquor producer/distributor. I lived near Voiron and did the obligatory tour of the production facility (I already liked the liquor thanks to a friend (hey Iv!), and the place smelled delicious!) They do a good job maintaining the mystique of the Secret Recipe Known Only By A Handful™, which I suppose the mo…

Haus Alpenz carries a genepy made by Dolin that is fairly easy to find at large/specialty stores. https://alpenz.com/product-genepy.html

Yes, the Dolin génépi is good, I really like it. It is no chartreuse, though. The closest I have seen to a mystic revelation is when I had a glass of green VEP (that’s the aged chartreuse; the one I tried was from the 1940s). It’s a life-changing experience.

Maybe the lack of chartreuse will help selling Bénédictine and génépi. I need to find new cocktails, though, I quite enjoy a Last Word.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by dariusj18 » Tue, Feb 28, 2023, 4:23 PM UTC

starkparker wrote: post #48

smcl wrote: post #39

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I'm quite amazed by the concentration of ugly opinions the author managed to squeeze into one relatively short sentence! I thought cocktails were meant to be fun, that they were meant to be riffed on and explored. I guess if you're from a "third rate" city that doesn't apply.

Considering the author's occupation (author of acerbic, often self-deprecating liquor-related books), location (Philadelphia), and the article's recipes (which include the Bijou, a Last Word contemporary that's also an equal-parts gin and Chartreuse cocktail garnished with a cherry), I suspect that passage is at least a little tongue-in-cheek. Also considering that this is a subscription newsletter, I suspect his aud…

I got the impression they were joking about those trying to change the cocktail in some misguided hipster effort.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by bee_rider » Tue, Feb 28, 2023, 4:25 PM UTC

fknorangesite wrote: post #133

bee_rider wrote: post #98

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It is a bit funny that Four Loko got this reputation, when alcohol+caffeine have been helping people make bad decisions faster for ages (it isn’t like the FDA is gonna somehow ban rum and coke).

Because there's practically no caffeine in a rum and coke. Very fuzzy napkin-math incoming: if you were to consume an equivalent amount of caffeine as a Four Loko via rum-and-cokes, you've now had about 50oz of rum. The caffeine would, uh, not be the problem. Edit: Hm, though maybe this says more about my "rum, wave a Coke over it" preferences.

Haha, that could be it. I guess it is a mixed drink anyway so you could do whatever, but coke has a pretty overpowering taste, so if you want to taste the rum, you’d have to go pretty strong I guess.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by kergonath » Tue, Feb 28, 2023, 4:25 PM UTC

heywhatupboys wrote: post #78

AceJohnny2 wrote: post #12

Chartreuse is a bit weird in that it's a kind of joint partnership between an isolationist monastery [1] and a liquor producer/distributor. I lived near Voiron and did the obligatory tour of the production facility (I already liked the liquor thanks to a friend (hey Iv!), and the place smelled delicious!) They do a good job maintaining the mystique of the Secret Recipe Known Only By A Handful™, which I suppose the mo…

Could anyone on HN give some insight as to what these 130 might be? to my knowledge, we don't even have 130 edible spices/plants growing naturally in France!

> we don't even have 130 edible spices/plants growing naturally in France!

I counted 44 here*, but that’s only because I stopped just before the letter B. There are loads of edible and medicinal plants in France, as in much of the world.

* https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_plantes_médicinales...

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by totalhack » Tue, Feb 28, 2023, 4:27 PM UTC

giraffe_lady wrote: post #121

totalhack wrote: post #70

My friend and I once asked a bartender for the absolute worst drink he could make. He came back with straight green chartreuse. It did not disappoint.

I guess they didn't have malort on hand.

I've had malort! It's definitely worse!

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by fknorangesite » Tue, Feb 28, 2023, 4:32 PM UTC

bee_rider wrote: post #144

fknorangesite wrote: post #133

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Because there's practically no caffeine in a rum and coke. Very fuzzy napkin-math incoming: if you were to consume an equivalent amount of caffeine as a Four Loko via rum-and-cokes, you've now had about 50oz of rum. The caffeine would, uh, not be the problem. Edit: Hm, though maybe this says more about my "rum, wave a Coke over it" preferences.

Haha, that could be it. I guess it is a mixed drink anyway so you could do whatever, but coke has a pretty overpowering taste, so if you want to taste the rum, you’d have to go pretty strong I guess.

Yeah. I guess the point is Four Loko has (had, I guess?) ~2.5x the caffeine by volume as Coke does - before adding any liquor to dilute the Coke.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by aconst » Tue, Feb 28, 2023, 4:34 PM UTC

throwaway744678 wrote: post #67

franky47 wrote: post #8

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Same here (ENSERG/Phelma). I find it funny that the name for Chartreuse + Hot chocolate in English is "Verte chaud" (I'll skip the conjugation error), while it's "Green chaud" in French.

And another one here as well! Was wondering how many of us are browsing HN...

Former Polytech'Grenoble (from the transition from ISTG) here :D

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by tom-thistime » Tue, Feb 28, 2023, 4:37 PM UTC

cnity wrote: post #140

tom-thistime wrote: post #131

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Can I ask kind of Scotch you like now? There's probably something out there that I'm just not finding. EDIT: I'm open to things that I hate on the first sip. In fact that might work best for me.

I'm probably the wrong person to ask, because my tastes are very indiscriminate (I like pretty much all of them) and I'm not that experienced tasting whisky. I had the cask strength Laphroaig (10 yrs) and loved that with just a touch of water. Really wild deep flavours.

Thanks! Have you compared it to the "regular" 10y Laphroaig?

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by bee_rider » Tue, Feb 28, 2023, 4:45 PM UTC

fknorangesite wrote: post #147

bee_rider wrote: post #144

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Haha, that could be it. I guess it is a mixed drink anyway so you could do whatever, but coke has a pretty overpowering taste, so if you want to taste the rum, you’d have to go pretty strong I guess.

Yeah. I guess the point is Four Loko has (had, I guess?) ~2.5x the caffeine by volume as Coke does - before adding any liquor to dilute the Coke.

Fair, another comment mentioned Red Bull and Vodka which would probably have been a better example, but I suspect that’s more a case of “we’d ban it if we could.”