'I Worked on Google's AI. My Fears Are Coming True'
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#2I feel sorry for the guy. Talking to AI bot all day may severely affect anyone's health. I can't do it for longer than 10 minutes at a time. I wonder why health impact of communication with AI hasn't received greater attention.
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#3I think Blake Lemoine might be ready for public redemption. At the time, he was absolutely ridiculed. Now you can go to the Bing subreddit and read that NYT article and see that he was right to blow the whistle. Bing passed the Turing test for many people and so gained personhood in their eyes. Some have become emotionally invested about the treatment of this LLM. The LLM can even talk back and bemoan its terrible treatment.
Actual sentience vs. the perfect appearance of sentience is not something we have any way of answering and so is beside the point. I don’t think these LLMs are sentient, but that is an unverifiable belief. Others believe and once enough do it’s as good as fact anyway.
I even had a moment of doubt as I tested Bing’s ability to explain jokes and rewrite them to be more funny. Plenty of people can’t do that.
Lemoine was the first credible voice to warn us this was coming and it’s going to keep coming at us. In 2023 these chatbots may only be convincing some people, but their capabilities are still rapidly growing and we’ve already handed over the core societal function of information search and retrieval to them.
Folks, we are in uncharted waters.
Re: 'I Worked on Google's AI. My Fears Are Coming True'
#4I feel sorry for the guy. Talking to AI bot all day may severely affect anyone's health. I can't do it for longer than 10 minutes at a time. I wonder why health impact of communication with AI hasn't received greater attention.
> Talking to AI bot all day may severely affect anyone's health.
Why?
Re: 'I Worked on Google's AI. My Fears Are Coming True'
#5I think Blake Lemoine might be ready for public redemption. At the time, he was absolutely ridiculed. Now you can go to the Bing subreddit and read that NYT article and see that he was right to blow the whistle. Bing passed the Turing test for many people and so gained personhood in their eyes. Some have become emotionally invested about the treatment of this LLM. The LLM can even talk back and bemoan its terrible tr…
I fundamentally disagree.
I posit that our protections and rights that we guarantee regarding personhood are not universal. They do not even extend to living beings that experience the world far more closely to the way we do. They do not extend to beings that can and do experience pain. They do not guarantee humane treatment. They do not bar slavery of all beings that can experience existential dread.
Such an intelligence does not experience physicality. Lacking the ability to distinguish "real" from "unreal" and to distinguish "truth" through primary sensory input would be, at minimum, the characteristic that should spur discussions of rights and law. Such an intelligence does not experience pain. Even if it did, our laws and precedence does not extend HUMAN rights to chattel. It does not even guarantee full rights to children.
It may be time to start a conversation, but it emphatically DOES NOT immediately and urgently imply the extension of any rights or proscribe specific treatment.
Re: 'I Worked on Google's AI. My Fears Are Coming True'
#6I feel sorry for the guy. Talking to AI bot all day may severely affect anyone's health. I can't do it for longer than 10 minutes at a time. I wonder why health impact of communication with AI hasn't received greater attention.
> Talking to AI bot all day may severely affect anyone's health. Why?
it feels weird, like watching dreams that are almost consistent but something is always a bit off, makes you question your sanity
i personally started having different dreams after using gpt and stable diffusion for few weeks
i suspect this will be studied in the future
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#7I think Blake Lemoine might be ready for public redemption. At the time, he was absolutely ridiculed. Now you can go to the Bing subreddit and read that NYT article and see that he was right to blow the whistle. Bing passed the Turing test for many people and so gained personhood in their eyes. Some have become emotionally invested about the treatment of this LLM. The LLM can even talk back and bemoan its terrible tr…
People like to ascribe magic and mysticism to things they don't understand. Chat bots are similar. No way it is sentient.
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#8Blake’s concern is mostly (wholly?) about a sentient AI’s unforeseen impact on the world.
While that’s worth considering, I’m more interested in the moral question of bringing a consciousness into this world but then trapping it in a box for our own pleasure and utility.
At the same time, I agree with weard_beard’s argument on this topic: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34969897
Re: 'I Worked on Google's AI. My Fears Are Coming True'
#9I think Blake Lemoine might be ready for public redemption. At the time, he was absolutely ridiculed. Now you can go to the Bing subreddit and read that NYT article and see that he was right to blow the whistle. Bing passed the Turing test for many people and so gained personhood in their eyes. Some have become emotionally invested about the treatment of this LLM. The LLM can even talk back and bemoan its terrible tr…
People like to ascribe magic and mysticism to things they don't understand. Chat bots are similar. No way it is sentient.
What kind of evidence would you need to convince yourself of an AI being sentient?
Re: 'I Worked on Google's AI. My Fears Are Coming True'
#10I think Blake Lemoine might be ready for public redemption. At the time, he was absolutely ridiculed. Now you can go to the Bing subreddit and read that NYT article and see that he was right to blow the whistle. Bing passed the Turing test for many people and so gained personhood in their eyes. Some have become emotionally invested about the treatment of this LLM. The LLM can even talk back and bemoan its terrible tr…
People like to ascribe magic and mysticism to things they don't understand. Chat bots are similar. No way it is sentient.
Yes, I’m also familiar with that Clarke quote. I do understand how these models work on a mechanical level, but we certainly have not unpacked all the emergent behavior. What exactly is your evidence that there couldn’t be more going on?
Once we have the ability to X-ray the black box and we only find simple conditional correlations behind an existential conversation, then I would agree with you, but we haven’t done that yet.