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Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by galangalalgol »

mabbo wrote: post #72
kerrsclyde wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Buckfast Tonic Wine, in the UK is produced in the same way. And it has been much maligned, linked with many alcohol related crimes, particularly in Scotland. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckfast_Tonic_Wine [2] https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/7702950/...

270mg of caffeine and 112ml of alcohol per 750ml bottle. Like three strong coffees and seven shots of vodka in a single serving. I truly think it ought to be taxed heavily to repay the costs that society bares for it's existence.

Surely they don't market it as a single serving!? It is fairly weak as far as fortified wines go, but you typically don't drink a whole bottle...

As far as the caffeine, the whole bottle has less than a scoop of most pre-workout.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by lovich »

ocimbote wrote: post #79
kenneth wrote: post #76

Unlike the author, I do not applaud the artificial limiting if supply. I find it incredibly annoying that it's become impossible to find Chartreuse and that the prices are skyrocketing. It's such a key and irreplaceable ingredient in many cocktails. Unlike a fancy whiskey or whatever, there is little you can substitute for it, so I'm not unable to get my orders at many of my favorite cocktail bars.

I want to think this comment was meant as a praise to the drink, but it sincerely rang as a selfish rant about how unhappy you are because your favorite cocktails will be harder to find.

Why should anyone not be unhappy that their favorite cocktail is harder to find?

The article tried to paint the monks in a favorable light for limiting their production for environmental reasons but the phrasing rings hollow to me. They didn’t stop all production, or release the recipe to the world. They merely limited their output which, much like many companies with monopoly power are currently finding, allows them to have a higher price per unit, while no one can come in and compete in their market.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by kevinmchugh »

callahad wrote: post #21
swalling wrote: post #19

Artificially limiting production on a secret recipe liqueur is a great tactic for turning what could be a commodity into more like a Veblen good. The opposite has happened to Campari, where you can now buy a ton of different red-hued craft aperitivo with similar flavor profiles. The article missed out on mentioning the best Chartreuse-based cocktail though: The Last Word. It’s absolutely sublime. https://en.wikipedia…

Alas, the Last Word was mentioned in passing, just not especially favorably: > It’s honestly inspiring that the monks refuse to see their earthly purpose as satisfying the demands of some knucklehead mixologist doing his little riff on the Last Word at some lame speakeasy in some third-tier city. Which is a shame, because it is a fantastic cocktail.

It's the riffs they're knocking, not the last word itself. There's bad riffs out there!

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by scop »

For anybody curious about the Catholic and monastic spirituality of silence, I would recommend a profound book:

The Power of Silence by Cardinal Robert Sarah

It’s final chapter is in fact a discussion with the Carthusian Master Dom Dysmus himself.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by nickreese »

anentropic wrote: post #49
capgre wrote: post #23

Interesting. I live in Tarragona, the Spanish city mentioned in the article where Chartreuse was produced for a period of time. This left a profound mark in the city and nowadays Chartreuse is closely associated with the town celebrations, specially the main annual festival, Santa Tecla. The traditional drink for this festival is called "mamadeta" (which has clear innuendo in Catalan that I'll let you figure out), wh…

I was wondering if there was a local version or similar liqueur still being produced there?

Closest thing in Tarragona is Hierbas de Montserrat... similar but quite different. Also look into DOM Benedictine.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by mabbo »

galangalalgol wrote: post #81
mabbo wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

270mg of caffeine and 112ml of alcohol per 750ml bottle. Like three strong coffees and seven shots of vodka in a single serving. I truly think it ought to be taxed heavily to repay the costs that society bares for it's existence.

Surely they don't market it as a single serving!? It is fairly weak as far as fortified wines go, but you typically don't drink a whole bottle... As far as the caffeine, the whole bottle has less than a scoop of most pre-workout.

Market it however you want, but when I lived in Scotland I never watched anyone pour any into a glass, or close a bottle back up.

They opened it. They drank it. Chaos followed.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Post by bradleyjg »

werdnapk wrote: post #88

And now watch a select few buy up as much stock as they can with an attempt to flip it for a much higher price.

The is something depressing about a world where everything has been arbitraged away. The joy of going into a thrift store or garage sale and finding a diamond in the rough is disappearing.
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