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Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

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Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

#71

My friend and I once asked a bartender for the absolute worst drink he could make. He came back with straight green chartreuse. It did not disappoint.

I once tried a cocktail based on chartreuse and it was definitely something. Can't say I would recommend anything based on chartreuse to anyone. It's a really, really peculiar taste, though if you are adventurous then by all means!

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

#72

Chartreuse is a bit weird in that it's a kind of joint partnership between an isolationist monastery [1] and a liquor producer/distributor. I lived near Voiron and did the obligatory tour of the production facility (I already liked the liquor thanks to a friend (hey Iv!), and the place smelled delicious!) They do a good job maintaining the mystique of the Secret Recipe Known Only By A Handful™, which I suppose the mo…

Buckfast Tonic Wine, in the UK is produced in the same way. And it has been much maligned, linked with many alcohol related crimes, particularly in Scotland. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckfast_Tonic_Wine [2] https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/7702950/...

270mg of caffeine and 112ml of alcohol per 750ml bottle. Like three strong coffees and seven shots of vodka in a single serving.

I truly think it ought to be taxed heavily to repay the costs that society bares for it's existence.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

#73
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Buckfast Tonic Wine, in the UK is produced in the same way. And it has been much maligned, linked with many alcohol related crimes, particularly in Scotland. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckfast_Tonic_Wine [2] https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/7702950/...

270mg of caffeine and 112ml of alcohol per 750ml bottle. Like three strong coffees and seven shots of vodka in a single serving. I truly think it ought to be taxed heavily to repay the costs that society bares for it's existence.

It's the British equivalent of Four Loko.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People who drink way too much don't drink £55 a bottle spirits. They drink £20 a bottle spirits.

Not all top consumers are so poor that they have to go for the cheap stuff. Also, if you're one of the people drinking it once a year, twenty of you is worth one of them to the producer. It doesn't take many such people to swamp you, consumption wise. I rented a cellar apartment in one of the most expensive neighbourhoods in my country for some years. (I got it cheap because the owner mostly just wanted someone to be…

It's still a rounding error compared to the bottles of cheap vodka and whisky (or whatever) in the rest of the city.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

#75
How would you go about creating something Chartreuse-like yourself?

Take some guess with what herbs and flowers might be used and soak it in Vodka for half a year.

I wouldn't be obsessed about exactly replicating the taste. Who knows some variation on it might even taste better.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

#76
Unlike the author, I do not applaud the artificial limiting if supply. I find it incredibly annoying that it's become impossible to find Chartreuse and that the prices are skyrocketing. It's such a key and irreplaceable ingredient in many cocktails. Unlike a fancy whiskey or whatever, there is little you can substitute for it, so I'm not unable to get my orders at many of my favorite cocktail bars.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

#77

Artificially limiting production on a secret recipe liqueur is a great tactic for turning what could be a commodity into more like a Veblen good. The opposite has happened to Campari, where you can now buy a ton of different red-hued craft aperitivo with similar flavor profiles. The article missed out on mentioning the best Chartreuse-based cocktail though: The Last Word. It’s absolutely sublime. https://en.wikipedia…

A friend working at Campari told me their strategy is to cut off supermarkets for a couple of years to focus on bar and restaurants, before an increase in pricing and a comeback in a couple of years.

Speaking of supermarkets, I think I remember in Grenoble Chartreuse rows of bottles even being on the "discount" shelves ??

I will have to check how much it costs in mine (it's great, but I'm not really into alcohol...)

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

#78

Chartreuse is a bit weird in that it's a kind of joint partnership between an isolationist monastery [1] and a liquor producer/distributor. I lived near Voiron and did the obligatory tour of the production facility (I already liked the liquor thanks to a friend (hey Iv!), and the place smelled delicious!) They do a good job maintaining the mystique of the Secret Recipe Known Only By A Handful™, which I suppose the mo…

Could anyone on HN give some insight as to what these 130 might be? to my knowledge, we don't even have 130 edible spices/plants growing naturally in France!

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

#79
post #76

Unlike the author, I do not applaud the artificial limiting if supply. I find it incredibly annoying that it's become impossible to find Chartreuse and that the prices are skyrocketing. It's such a key and irreplaceable ingredient in many cocktails. Unlike a fancy whiskey or whatever, there is little you can substitute for it, so I'm not unable to get my orders at many of my favorite cocktail bars.

I want to think this comment was meant as a praise to the drink, but it sincerely rang as a selfish rant about how unhappy you are because your favorite cocktails will be harder to find.

Re: Where has all the Chartreuse gone?

#80
post #55

It’s interesting how Chartreuse is this normal thing in Europe but seems to be this cultish cocktail i ingredient in the US. I personally prefer drinking it straight or in a Chartreuse tonic (some restaurants in Lyon serve it like a gin and tonic and it’s fabulous)

Once hipsters discover something it’s all downhill.
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