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This reeks of the government being stupid.

The same thing when they brought the GameStop guy Keith Gill to speak before congress.

The ftc is now the AI marketing police come on give me a break. America, you can’t sue your way to success… your population needs to just get a little smarter on their own. Or maybe you could fund education.

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> reading Sam Altman’s twitter He has made a pronounced and clear shift to a “thought leader” account after the OpenAI-MS investment. That can only mean that OpenAI is dying.

It’s been so strange to see this shift. I’m not sure if it’s true or not but it’s how I feel. He sometimes will just say stuff out of the blue. It makes me wonder what is hype, and what is real.

He built a language model on corporate executive communications and internalized it

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> Deterministic if/then statements This was the pinnacle of AI in the 80's. They called them "expert systems".

Large language models are the thing the average joe in 2023 would call AI the most, and at the end of the day, if you go deep enough down the 500 billion parameters rabbit hole, it's just a "veryyyyyyy loooooong chain of if-then-else's" obtained after 10s of thousands of hours of computing time over basically all of the text generated by humans over 30 years of internet existence. I know it's not EXACTLY that, but it…

This is kind of like saying every video could be recreated manually with painters.

That is, this is a ridiculous statement.

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“It’s an ambiguous term with many possible definitions.” “Does the product actually use AI at all? If you think you can get away with baseless claims…” Last I checked basic optimization techniques like simulated annealing and gradient descent - as well as a host of basic statistical tools - are standard parts of an introductory AI textbook. I’ve been on the receiving end of government agency enforcement (SEC) and it…

Yeah, it's pretty laughable that the source they link to for those "possible definitions" right away says this: > AI is defined in many ways and often in broad terms. The variations stem in part from whether one sees it as a discipline (e.g., a branch of computer science), a concept (e.g., computers performing tasks in ways that simulate human cognition), a set of infrastructures (e.g., the data and computational pow…

A pocket calculator actually a superhuman AI in the microsecond it evaluates an equation. It's AI all the way down.

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“It’s an ambiguous term with many possible definitions.” “Does the product actually use AI at all? If you think you can get away with baseless claims…” Last I checked basic optimization techniques like simulated annealing and gradient descent - as well as a host of basic statistical tools - are standard parts of an introductory AI textbook. I’ve been on the receiving end of government agency enforcement (SEC) and it…

It sounds like you may have missed the stampede of “AI” companies coming out of the woodwork the last few months.

For every legitimate AI project, there have been a thousand “entrepreneurs” who spend 4 hours putting a webflow site on top of GPT APIs and claim they’ve built an “AI product”. There’s no limit on the amount of BS benefits they claim. They seem like the same people who just finished running the crypto scams.

It seems quite obvious to me that this cohort is the target of this statement.

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“It’s an ambiguous term with many possible definitions.” “Does the product actually use AI at all? If you think you can get away with baseless claims…” Last I checked basic optimization techniques like simulated annealing and gradient descent - as well as a host of basic statistical tools - are standard parts of an introductory AI textbook. I’ve been on the receiving end of government agency enforcement (SEC) and it…

It sounds like you may have missed the stampede of “AI” companies coming out of the woodwork the last few months. For every legitimate AI project, there have been a thousand “entrepreneurs” who spend 4 hours putting a webflow site on top of GPT APIs and claim they’ve built an “AI product”. There’s no limit on the amount of BS benefits they claim. They seem like the same people who just finished running the crypto sca…

> spend 4 hours putting a webflow site on top of GPT APIs

GPT _is_ AI though, no? I would think that this would count. Might violate "a re you exaggerating what your AI product can do" or "are you aware of the risks" instead though.

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It sounds like you may have missed the stampede of “AI” companies coming out of the woodwork the last few months. For every legitimate AI project, there have been a thousand “entrepreneurs” who spend 4 hours putting a webflow site on top of GPT APIs and claim they’ve built an “AI product”. There’s no limit on the amount of BS benefits they claim. They seem like the same people who just finished running the crypto sca…

> spend 4 hours putting a webflow site on top of GPT APIs GPT _is_ AI though, no? I would think that this would count. Might violate "a re you exaggerating what your AI product can do" or "are you aware of the risks" instead though.

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I mean cool. But honestly what is this "fairness and equity" bullshit? Trying to nip false advertising in the bud is one thing and I believe something the FTC has authority over. But who in the world granted the FTC the authority to pursue the fairness and equity of any product, let alone an AI product? I mean I'm not anti-fairness but I'm also astonished to see the FTC trying to regulate it. Thou shalt not sell a pr…

If you're looking for the actual basis for this, that would be the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Americans with Disabilities Act, and all of the numerous ways in which these doctrines are required to permeate how the executive branch protects citizens against many forms of discrimination. The US has sweeping anti-discrimination laws, and they apply to private business too.

This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who has learned about US history.

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It sounds like you may have missed the stampede of “AI” companies coming out of the woodwork the last few months. For every legitimate AI project, there have been a thousand “entrepreneurs” who spend 4 hours putting a webflow site on top of GPT APIs and claim they’ve built an “AI product”. There’s no limit on the amount of BS benefits they claim. They seem like the same people who just finished running the crypto sca…

> spend 4 hours putting a webflow site on top of GPT APIs GPT _is_ AI though, no? I would think that this would count. Might violate "a re you exaggerating what your AI product can do" or "are you aware of the risks" instead though.

> GPT _is_ AI though, no?

Not all of us would agree. We would only take that expression for a rhetoric simplification (a shortening for "part of a broad AI realm"). We would pivot near the concept of "AI" as "a problem solver that could do the job of a professional". This in way excludes e.g. "build convincing text", because it is not (or should not) be a professional task - though it can surely be part of research.

Doubts are possible on all four FTC points - plus more in the linked guidance post from E. Jillison (e.g. "Do more good than harm" - difficult measure on engines which have "relaxed sides").

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sounds like you may have missed the stampede of “AI” companies coming out of the woodwork the last few months. For every legitimate AI project, there have been a thousand “entrepreneurs” who spend 4 hours putting a webflow site on top of GPT APIs and claim they’ve built an “AI product”. There’s no limit on the amount of BS benefits they claim. They seem like the same people who just finished running the crypto sca…

> spend 4 hours putting a webflow site on top of GPT APIs GPT _is_ AI though, no? I would think that this would count. Might violate "a re you exaggerating what your AI product can do" or "are you aware of the risks" instead though.

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