SOPA sponsors return: "think of the children"
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#2We need to call them out on how Orwellian this bill is and how they are hiding behind child abuse to monitor the whole Internet and everyone, before they get a chance to ask "why are we against protecting children online?".
Let's frame the issue before they do. Also bring up the point that Rep. Lofgren tried to add an amendment called "Keep Every American's Digital Data for Submission to the Federal Government Without a Warrant Act.". Of course they rejected it.
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#3"Ultima Ratio Politicus"
English Translation: Think of the children.
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#4Its worth noting that the RH (reported in house) version of the bill is significantly better. This requires logging only ip addresses and only for 12 months
AND the response may only be compelled by a government entity.
(1) A commercial provider of an electronic communication service shall retain for a period of at least one year a log of the temporarily assigned network addresses the provider assigns to a subscriber to or customer of such service that enables the identification of the corresponding customer or subscriber information under subsection (c)(2) of this section.
`(2) Access to a record or information required to be retained under this subsection may not be compelled by any person or other entity that is not a governmental entity.Re: SOPA sponsors return: "think of the children"
#5Its worth noting that the RH (reported in house) version of the bill is significantly better. This requires logging only ip addresses and only for 12 months AND the response may only be compelled by a government entity. (1) A commercial provider of an electronic communication service shall retain for a period of at least one year a log of the temporarily assigned network addresses the provider assigns to a subscriber…
It still needs work, like requiring reasonable suspicion of child pornography, but it is significantly better.
Also if anyone can confirm whether or not that Reported in House means that the actual bill that has been fixed and that it is not just suggested changes to the bill that would be great
Re: SOPA sponsors return: "think of the children"
#6We need to call them out on how Orwellian this bill is and how they are hiding behind child abuse to monitor the whole Internet and everyone, before they get a chance to ask "why are we against protecting children online?". Let's frame the issue before they do. Also bring up the point that Rep. Lofgren tried to add an amendment called "Keep Every American's Digital Data for Submission to the Federal Government Withou…
Orwellian was the same word I was thinking as I read this.
It's too bad the bill's code number isn't H.R. 1984 - it'd be a lot more appropriate.
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#7"Think of the Children!" will always remain a tactic as long as people are concerned that, by opposing the argument, they will be seen as "anti-children." Simply knowing that it is a tactic should take away the fear of opposing it for what it is. A manipulation tactic.
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#8Dammit, I hate being right: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3476099
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#9Am I reading this right? At the bottom of section 8 is this gem.
[...] a court shall presume [...] that the distribution or publication using the Internet of a photograph of [...] a specific person serves no legitimate purpose [...]
What does that mean? If you transmit a picture of somebody without them giving the okay first you're probably up to no good?
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#10Related: http://torrentfreak.com/the-copyright-lobby-absolutely-loves...
There's a very slippery slope of misuse that eventually creeps in with any new enforcement privilege. One example - the extra abilities the Patriot act gave to law enforcement that now are used almost exclusively for non-terrorism related investigations.