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Vimium – A browser extension that provides Vim-style keyboard controls

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Re: Vimium – A browser extension that provides Vim-style keyboard controls

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Post by omniglottal »

qolop wrote: post #22

I've been using Vimium for quite some time now, and while I like it, there are two things which annoy the hell out of me. Vimium disables the browser's backward-forward cache (by listening to the "unload" event), causing navigation to be much slower. There is also no way for a website owner to warn a Vimium user of conflicting keybindings. I run a website which implements Vim keybindings and several of my users compl…

As the website author, you can see which extensions the client browser is running, no? Wouldn't that make it your responsibility to detect then disable your custom keybindings rather than the users's?

Re: Vimium – A browser extension that provides Vim-style keyboard controls

#32

Post by belinder »

Been using vimium for years. I have gotten so used to scrolling pages at different speed by pressing keys that whenever I am using someone else's computer I have to fight muscle memory. I also use it for clicking links through keybinds, but really the custom up/down is the main usage.

The occasional website having its own keybinds never stops being annoying, but it's easy to disable the extension per site

Re: Vimium – A browser extension that provides Vim-style keyboard controls

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Post by dmix »

belinder wrote: post #32

Been using vimium for years. I have gotten so used to scrolling pages at different speed by pressing keys that whenever I am using someone else's computer I have to fight muscle memory. I also use it for clicking links through keybinds, but really the custom up/down is the main usage. The occasional website having its own keybinds never stops being annoying, but it's easy to disable the extension per site

100%. Scrolling with arrows/mouse instead of hitting j or k just feels uncomfortable.

Maybe there's something to be learned by browser designers. It's not just the fact it's on the home row and muscle memory for Vim users. The default speed for down/up arrow scrolling and lack of smoothing is just not the same.

Re: Vimium – A browser extension that provides Vim-style keyboard controls

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Post by sva_ »

dmix wrote: post #33
belinder wrote: post #32

Been using vimium for years. I have gotten so used to scrolling pages at different speed by pressing keys that whenever I am using someone else's computer I have to fight muscle memory. I also use it for clicking links through keybinds, but really the custom up/down is the main usage. The occasional website having its own keybinds never stops being annoying, but it's easy to disable the extension per site

100%. Scrolling with arrows/mouse instead of hitting j or k just feels uncomfortable. Maybe there's something to be learned by browser designers. It's not just the fact it's on the home row and muscle memory for Vim users. The default speed for down/up arrow scrolling and lack of smoothing is just not the same.

In vim, I usually scroll with ctrl-u/d?

Re: Vimium – A browser extension that provides Vim-style keyboard controls

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Post by daveidol »

omniglottal wrote: post #31
qolop wrote: post #22

I've been using Vimium for quite some time now, and while I like it, there are two things which annoy the hell out of me. Vimium disables the browser's backward-forward cache (by listening to the "unload" event), causing navigation to be much slower. There is also no way for a website owner to warn a Vimium user of conflicting keybindings. I run a website which implements Vim keybindings and several of my users compl…

As the website author, you can see which extensions the client browser is running, no? Wouldn't that make it your responsibility to detect then disable your custom keybindings rather than the users's?

> As the website author, you can see which extensions the client browser is running, no?

No, not really. Not unless it specifies certain `web_accessible_resources` which you try to load - but that's a bit of a hack, needs to be done on an extension-by-extension basis, and won't even work for all extensions.

Re: Vimium – A browser extension that provides Vim-style keyboard controls

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Post by the_pwner224 »

waz0wski wrote: post #29

For Firefox there's also https://github.com/tridactyl/tridactyl

I switched from Tridactyl to Vimium a while ago. Tridactyl is powerful and feature rich but more complex. Vimium does everything you need for normal usage and is super simple to set up (the default config is a very good base and you'll probably only end up making minimal changes over time).

Re: Vimium – A browser extension that provides Vim-style keyboard controls

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Post by ris58h »

qolop wrote: post #22

I've been using Vimium for quite some time now, and while I like it, there are two things which annoy the hell out of me. Vimium disables the browser's backward-forward cache (by listening to the "unload" event), causing navigation to be much slower. There is also no way for a website owner to warn a Vimium user of conflicting keybindings. I run a website which implements Vim keybindings and several of my users compl…

> There is also no way for a website owner to warn a Vimium user of conflicting keybindings.

Or Vimium users could RTFM.

Re: Vimium – A browser extension that provides Vim-style keyboard controls

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Post by tempestn »

omniglottal wrote: post #31
qolop wrote: post #22

I've been using Vimium for quite some time now, and while I like it, there are two things which annoy the hell out of me. Vimium disables the browser's backward-forward cache (by listening to the "unload" event), causing navigation to be much slower. There is also no way for a website owner to warn a Vimium user of conflicting keybindings. I run a website which implements Vim keybindings and several of my users compl…

As the website author, you can see which extensions the client browser is running, no? Wouldn't that make it your responsibility to detect then disable your custom keybindings rather than the users's?

I wouldn't think so. There are infinite ways for people to customize their browsers; it's not reasonable to expect website developers to account for them all.

Plus in the case of your parent, their website implements vim keybindings, so basically all of them are going to conflict with this extension, and it's going to be pretty useless if they detect that situation and react by changing all of them to something non-standard.

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