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Lawsuits Block Thousands of Seattle Homes, $39M for Affordable Housing

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Re: Lawsuits Block Thousands of Seattle Homes, $39M for Affordable Housing

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That's a contradiction in terms, AFAICT. I was excited to find this in the post: > Meanwhile, a bill moving forward in the legislature introduced by Representative Amy Walen (D-48, Bellevue) would ban design review for housing projects statewide. I have this bookmarked to contact my reps and senator to join as co-sponsors.[1] [1]: https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=1026&Year=2023...

Two new apartment buildings recently went up where I live. Both have roughly the same number of units inside, and the units are of similar size. One is ugly, and the other blends nicely into the neighborhood, even incorporating some green space and planted trees. There's no reason why the ugly one couldn't have been nicer looking, other than that the developers didn't bother to make the place look more like the surro…

of course it would be ideal if everyone could be reasonable and not abuse these processes, but that's obviously not the case. So the decisions seems to come down to maybe having new ugly buildings vs having no new buildings. I think people that need somewhere to live would choose the new ugly building instead of overpaying for old buildings.

Re: Lawsuits Block Thousands of Seattle Homes, $39M for Affordable Housing

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> Arguing against the project, Escala’s attorneys claimed that shadows from the new buildings would result in “cancers, cardiovascular disease, metabolic disorders and mental health [sic].” In a world with an ironic sense of justice the court would accept their argument and extend it to then requiring Escala's demolition so that their neighbours would not be affected by shadows.

Don't give SF NIMBYs any ideas.

SF government does already cancel housing developments over shadows.

https://sf.curbed.com/2019/4/10/18304717/shadow-housing-sf-p...

Re: Lawsuits Block Thousands of Seattle Homes, $39M for Affordable Housing

#93

Does any city have a well functioning design review process or are they all captured by incumbents to slow down development?

Only ones ran by authoritarians who don't give two figs about community input. So, old Communist planned cities, modern China, Singapore, etc.

The end result is often much more livable than the endless suburban hellsprawl that we get here.

Re: Lawsuits Block Thousands of Seattle Homes, $39M for Affordable Housing

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I'm reminded of a recent housing development that was planned in the city where I live. They wanted to build a few hundred near zero-lot-line single family homes and townhouses. It was on land that was previously zoned industrial, so it required a pretty lengthy approval process. The neighborhood next to it fought the proposed zoning changes. Too many houses near by, increasing traffic, too close to the creek, etc. P…

Low income housing is associated with more crime, but warehouses are not. The residents were probably satisfied with the result.

Who said anything about low-income housing?

Re: Lawsuits Block Thousands of Seattle Homes, $39M for Affordable Housing

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These lawsuits are an excellent refutation of your premise. I don’t want tenements anywhere near where I live. And I will work as hard as necessary to prevent their installation.

These are million dollar condos, you insensitive clod.

Only on the top floors. They’re Section 8 below that.

Re: Lawsuits Block Thousands of Seattle Homes, $39M for Affordable Housing

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Not everybody wants new tenements in their nice neighborhood.

You can choose to have affordable housing, or you can choose have a homeless encampment. The poor people don't just disappear.

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Re: Lawsuits Block Thousands of Seattle Homes, $39M for Affordable Housing

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Not everybody wants new tenements in their nice neighborhood.

Not everyone wants NIMBYs in their nice neighborhood, but we end up having to tolerate them. The way state-level political winds are going, it looks like you'll have to tolerate things you dislike, as well.

Re: Lawsuits Block Thousands of Seattle Homes, $39M for Affordable Housing

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You can choose to have affordable housing, or you can choose have a homeless encampment. The poor people don't just disappear.

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I think a better solution would be to see the NIMBYs get a bus ticket to Portland.
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