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Re: What Is Anglish?

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Post by seszett »

G3rn0ti wrote: post #29
cmh89 wrote: post #12

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'Compute(er)' is a French word

Ironically, the French „Académie française“ banned the term „computer“ and established „l‘ordinateur“ instead to keep the language pure. :)

The reason "ordinateur" is used in French, is that IBM coined that word because "calculateur" (the regular modern French translation of "computer") sounded too mundane.

"Ordinateur" suggests sorting, rather than just making simple calculations.

It has nothing at all with "keeping the language pure" (which seems kind of a meme in the English speaking world, but really couldn't be further from truth) and it was originally trademarked by IBM, but quickly became a generic word.

Re: What Is Anglish?

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Post by bloppe »

triyambakam wrote: post #30
bloppe wrote: post #22

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This is turtles all the way down. All Germanic languages are highly related to the other Indo-European languages. The Latin alphabet we use to write can be traced back to Egyptian Hieroglyphs. People just like to pick arbitrary points in an evolutionary timeline and use those points to create in-groups and out-groups.

But if you take that view, you can't define anything. You can't even say it's the Latin alphabet. We must constantly ignore the "turtles" for many things in daily life. So yes, it's arbitrary but that's not a problem. It's just what they chose for the project.

I'm not saying it's a bad project. I think it's cool, but the words "pure" and "native" don't make sense to me to describe it.

Re: What Is Anglish?

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Post by zabzonk »

triyambakam wrote: post #25
zabzonk wrote: post #18

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borrowings have always happened. and as regards early english, did you ever see phillip larkin describe it as "ape's bumfodder"? luckily we replaced it with many, many borrowings, so much so that looking at AS english is prainful on the brain - and uneccessary.

Of course, at different times it happened to more or less a degree, and from different languages. It's all arbitrary, but this project chose an arbitrary precision of "pure" Germanic English. It's their choice and doesn't feel ideologically motivated, more so in the spirit of conlang (constructed languages).

> "pure" Germanic English

something there never has been?

Re: What Is Anglish?

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Post by OnlyMortal »

epicureanideal wrote: post #28
triyambakam wrote: post #20

I have had a lot of fun with Anglish in the past, composing poetry and even attempting to write school assignments in it. However as I've grown as a linguist, I now disagree with the direction that they've taken it, but I understand why. That is, the Anglish project uses cognates and sometimes inventions from Old English, Dutch and German because most linguists (and people) consider English a West Germanic language,…

Do you have any examples of an English / Scandinavian hybrid? Also, I wonder if such a thing might actually arise in the Scandinavian countries in the future?

Yorkshuhman here… we say “ta” (tak) for thanks. We also say “cheers” (tschuss) for goodbye.

Going a bit deeper, “dale” (daal - Dutch), “beck” (beek - Dutch).

Having learnt (not learned) in Amsterdam, it’s very, very like the dialects of the north east of Yorkshuh. So much so, it’s rather a surprise.

Re: What Is Anglish?

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Post by Archelaos »

A rather subtle feature of Tolkien's style is that he often favours words or expressions of Germanic over such with Romanic roots. He does not overdo it, but the low frequency of "Romanic" words seems deliberate.

Re: What Is Anglish?

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Post by anthk »

G3rn0ti wrote: post #29
cmh89 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

'Compute(er)' is a French word

Ironically, the French „Académie française“ banned the term „computer“ and established „l‘ordinateur“ instead to keep the language pure. :)

We Spaniards use ordenador and before that we used "computadora".

The Spanish speakers across the pond use "computadora" or "computador".

To us computador make us think on something like an old ancient device from the 60-70's.

Re: What Is Anglish?

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Post by [deleted] »

G3rn0ti wrote: post #29
cmh89 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

'Compute(er)' is a French word

Ironically, the French „Académie française“ banned the term „computer“ and established „l‘ordinateur“ instead to keep the language pure. :)

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Re: What Is Anglish?

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bee_rider wrote: post #36

> “We the Folk of the Foroned Riches, to make a more flawless oneship, build rightness, bring frith and stillness to our land, shield one another, uphold the overall welfare, and hold fast the Blessings of Freedom to ourselves and our offspring, do foresay and lay down this lawbook for the foroned riches of Americksland.” This sort of reads like an attempt at coming up with like a “English, 100 years after the apocal…

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Re: What Is Anglish?

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Post by [deleted] »

triyambakam wrote: post #25
zabzonk wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

borrowings have always happened. and as regards early english, did you ever see phillip larkin describe it as "ape's bumfodder"? luckily we replaced it with many, many borrowings, so much so that looking at AS english is prainful on the brain - and uneccessary.

Of course, at different times it happened to more or less a degree, and from different languages. It's all arbitrary, but this project chose an arbitrary precision of "pure" Germanic English. It's their choice and doesn't feel ideologically motivated, more so in the spirit of conlang (constructed languages).

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