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AMD releases a new flagship CPU for consumer market with 128M of L3 Cache

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Re: AMD releases a new flagship CPU for consumer market with 128M of L3 Cache

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The inflation has really hit the consumer market... 700$ for CPU and over thousand for GPU... Memory is not cheap either... Not that it won't sell, but still these price points for something still called consumer start to be high. You could get a whole portable PC for same money.

A better example would be the 4070ti really, 700$ for a 70-class GPU.

Re: AMD releases a new flagship CPU for consumer market with 128M of L3 Cache

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Does this 7950X3D have an iGPU? P.S: the table in TFA lists the 7700 as having the same 105W as the 7700X. I think that's a slight mistake and the 7700 is 65W max listed TDP instead. FWIW I'm considering a 7700 for I'm not ultra happy with my 3700X (one of the reason being it has no iGPU and I could find a passive GPU with a NVidia chipset, forcing me to use proprietary drivers in Linux and it's a major PITA for if I…

Thanks for pointing out the error in the specs table, I failed at copy paste, fixed now ;)

My pleasure and thanks for fixing it!

Re: AMD releases a new flagship CPU for consumer market with 128M of L3 Cache

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post #18

The inflation has really hit the consumer market... 700$ for CPU and over thousand for GPU... Memory is not cheap either... Not that it won't sell, but still these price points for something still called consumer start to be high. You could get a whole portable PC for same money.

$700 topish tier CPUs are nothing new. The Pentium 4 Extreme Edition had a $1000 MSRP for instance. Even in 2004 you could get an entire laptop for the money, even an Apple laptop with the base model iBook G4 selling for $1000. There is still good CPUs in the $100-$300 range.

GPU prices have gone insane though with mid-range having somehow moved up to $400-$500 where high-end was a decade ago.

Re: AMD releases a new flagship CPU for consumer market with 128M of L3 Cache

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Does this 7950X3D have an iGPU? P.S: the table in TFA lists the 7700 as having the same 105W as the 7700X. I think that's a slight mistake and the 7700 is 65W max listed TDP instead. FWIW I'm considering a 7700 for I'm not ultra happy with my 3700X (one of the reason being it has no iGPU and I could find a passive GPU with a NVidia chipset, forcing me to use proprietary drivers in Linux and it's a major PITA for if I…

Yes, its very minimal though, and AMD makes more "balanced" CPUs with an IGP that might work with your existing motherboard. The 3 die chips like this are probably not the best choice for passive cooling, as they burn a lot of power on interchip communication.

Oh I don't necessarily want to passive cool the whole box... I typically stuff a Be Quiet! CPU cooler and a BeQuiet! PSU and I'm happy like that.

Re: AMD releases a new flagship CPU for consumer market with 128M of L3 Cache

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Does this 7950X3D have an iGPU? P.S: the table in TFA lists the 7700 as having the same 105W as the 7700X. I think that's a slight mistake and the 7700 is 65W max listed TDP instead. FWIW I'm considering a 7700 for I'm not ultra happy with my 3700X (one of the reason being it has no iGPU and I could find a passive GPU with a NVidia chipset, forcing me to use proprietary drivers in Linux and it's a major PITA for if I…

I vaguely remember that the iGPUs in the 7000 series had some trouble with Linux support. May be wrong, but do look into that. Might need a bleeding-edge kernel and mesa.

There was a blog post posted here a few weeks/months(?) ago but basically the person was using an old kernel. I'll look more into it.

Re: AMD releases a new flagship CPU for consumer market with 128M of L3 Cache

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AnandTech sees some intriguing regressions on certain benchmarks, https://www.anandtech.com/show/18747/the-amd-ryzen-9-7950x3d... ( "CPU Benchmark Performance: Simulation" ) Worst is Factorio, which is down -47% against the 5800X3D (a previous-generation CPU that also uses stacked L3 cache), on the benchmark "10K trains". Wonder what's going on there? - "We would have expected higher performance in our Factorio bench…

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What driver is responsible for assigning specific games to specific CPU CCDs?

Is this a real thing? Is it available on Linux? Or am I sticking with Intel?

Re: AMD releases a new flagship CPU for consumer market with 128M of L3 Cache

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Does this 7950X3D have an iGPU? P.S: the table in TFA lists the 7700 as having the same 105W as the 7700X. I think that's a slight mistake and the 7700 is 65W max listed TDP instead. FWIW I'm considering a 7700 for I'm not ultra happy with my 3700X (one of the reason being it has no iGPU and I could find a passive GPU with a NVidia chipset, forcing me to use proprietary drivers in Linux and it's a major PITA for if I…

You can find some passive rx550 and rx560 which work great on Linux with OSS drivers.

Ah nice, I'll try to see if I can find one that can do 4K @ 75 Hz (well 3840x1600 really, not 4K but if it does 4K it's good for me).

Re: AMD releases a new flagship CPU for consumer market with 128M of L3 Cache

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Does this 7950X3D have an iGPU? P.S: the table in TFA lists the 7700 as having the same 105W as the 7700X. I think that's a slight mistake and the 7700 is 65W max listed TDP instead. FWIW I'm considering a 7700 for I'm not ultra happy with my 3700X (one of the reason being it has no iGPU and I could find a passive GPU with a NVidia chipset, forcing me to use proprietary drivers in Linux and it's a major PITA for if I…

If you're on a 3700X you'll need a new board and RAM for AM5

Assuming your motherboard has video outputs it'll be much cheaper to stay on AM4 and throw in a 5700G

Re: AMD releases a new flagship CPU for consumer market with 128M of L3 Cache

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post #18

The inflation has really hit the consumer market... 700$ for CPU and over thousand for GPU... Memory is not cheap either... Not that it won't sell, but still these price points for something still called consumer start to be high. You could get a whole portable PC for same money.

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