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Poor sleep drove me insane, and my long path to recovery
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Re: Poor sleep drove me insane, and my long path to recovery
#22Yes, you need to treat the actual underlying condition causing issues. Lots of health issues interfere with sleep.
Muscle tension was another confounding factor. I was tense all the time. Treating muscle tension improved my symptoms, but it was only a band-aid.
Potassium deficiency can cause muscle tension or cramping and will also cause poor sleep.
Re: Poor sleep drove me insane, and my long path to recovery
#23This is quite raw and I'm actually somewhat afraid to share this. But I think sleep apnea is criminally under-discussed and underdiagnosed. It can f your life up sideways and can take years to diagnose. So sharing my story and hope I can advocate for it. If you have sleep apnea, no amount of sleep gadgets, good habits, exercise, will help you. You must fix the root cause
Good points, but also if your job is causing this amount of suffering, don’t wait. GTFO as fast as you can, otherwise you’re going to work your way into a death spiral that is even harder to get out of (poor sleep, weight gain, emotional distress, negative impacts to relationships, grinding teeth during sleep leading to dental damage, etc). Defend your sleep and well-being like you would a loved one. No one will do i…
As soon as I realized my healthy sleep and wage work were incompatible, I quit working for others permanently and have been far healthier since then. Overnight and persistent improvement. Now I sleep well and when I don’t at night I just sleep when I want to. Simple
Re: Poor sleep drove me insane, and my long path to recovery
#24I had some issues like this but only manifested when I was on work trips which lasted weeks to months. I can tough out several days of sleeping in a hotel but the longer the stay the more I react to whatever is common to hotel rooms and the problems breathing / and sleep apnea gradually push me around the bend. Returning home cures me after a recovery period.
I wonder, do the hotels you stay at differentiate the smoking and non-smoking rooms?
Where I live does, I once accidentally booked a smoking room and I could not sleep at all. It felt like I was burning my esophagus.
I suspect smokers just don't feel how inflamed their airways are anymore, otherwise I have no idea how anyone could live like that.
Re: Poor sleep drove me insane, and my long path to recovery
#25Had this, definitely nearly had a mental break down and panic attacks. Solution for me ended up being: 1) Drinking less as relaxed breathing triggered it 2) Walking long distances while practicing breathing deeply and hill climbing to build cardio and stronger lungs. After that I had almost no issues, fixed it like a charm. YMMV
Thanks for sharing what worked for you. I've been wondering if light-moderate drinking might be affecting me, and it seems to be a common thread in what I'm reading about this condition.
Re: Poor sleep drove me insane, and my long path to recovery
#26This really resonated with me - I went through almost the same experience, with allergies and UARS almost destroying my life. The worst part about this for me was what you described as root causing self issues, something that we had to do while also experiencing issues with memory and cognition caused by the problem we were trying to solve. What a terrible catch-22
Re: Poor sleep drove me insane, and my long path to recovery
#27This is quite raw and I'm actually somewhat afraid to share this. But I think sleep apnea is criminally under-discussed and underdiagnosed. It can f your life up sideways and can take years to diagnose. So sharing my story and hope I can advocate for it. If you have sleep apnea, no amount of sleep gadgets, good habits, exercise, will help you. You must fix the root cause
Interesting. I bet close to all young skinny people with sleep apnea must remain undiagnosed.
My generalist doc basically said "if you really insist we can do a polysomnography, but I'm pretty sure you don't have it, you're young, skinny and sporty. There isn't really much that helps that you can do about it anyway".
I did insist and it turned out that I do have it. The changes in life I experienced are similar to yours. The doc's advice was double wrong in my case.
Some other interesting thing I noticed: there seems to be something messed up about medical diagnosis equipment. At least in sleep apnea.
I've done about 5 "sleep tests" in different countries with different equipment and the results varied between 0, a few 5-6 and one with 15 events per hour (no apnea, mild apnea and "medium"? apnea). The 0 to 6 where with portable "take home" devices, the 15 was a more serious feeling expensive looking in-hospital device with tons of wiring all over the body.
So in short: the same patient can be cured and pretty severly suffering at the same time?!
I'm not sure what's going on there but it smells like corruption in medical devices like that one Netflix documentary talks about. It was an episode of "dirty money" if I remember correctly.
Re: Poor sleep drove me insane, and my long path to recovery
#28This is quite raw and I'm actually somewhat afraid to share this. But I think sleep apnea is criminally under-discussed and underdiagnosed. It can f your life up sideways and can take years to diagnose. So sharing my story and hope I can advocate for it. If you have sleep apnea, no amount of sleep gadgets, good habits, exercise, will help you. You must fix the root cause
Interesting. I bet close to all young skinny people with sleep apnea must remain undiagnosed. My generalist doc basically said "if you really insist we can do a polysomnography, but I'm pretty sure you don't have it, you're young, skinny and sporty. There isn't really much that helps that you can do about it anyway". I did insist and it turned out that I do have it. The changes in life I experienced are similar to yo…
Can I ask what symptoms you had as a skinny / sporty individual with sleep apnea?
Re: Poor sleep drove me insane, and my long path to recovery
#29Getting to sleep early, getting up early 1hr before sunrise, diet and exercise - been absolutely priceless change for my life. You don’t get your life back, not even a second. Old age sneaks up on you and once it’s there it never goes away. I had to go through a complete burnout on my job to make these changes. In some way a blessing in disguise. But don’t wait till it’s too late. Prioritize these small changes little by little.
Re: Poor sleep drove me insane, and my long path to recovery
#30This is quite raw and I'm actually somewhat afraid to share this. But I think sleep apnea is criminally under-discussed and underdiagnosed. It can f your life up sideways and can take years to diagnose. So sharing my story and hope I can advocate for it. If you have sleep apnea, no amount of sleep gadgets, good habits, exercise, will help you. You must fix the root cause
Interesting. I bet close to all young skinny people with sleep apnea must remain undiagnosed. My generalist doc basically said "if you really insist we can do a polysomnography, but I'm pretty sure you don't have it, you're young, skinny and sporty. There isn't really much that helps that you can do about it anyway". I did insist and it turned out that I do have it. The changes in life I experienced are similar to yo…
I feel like that doesn't place enough weight on the bull hypothesis- the devices are bad because most things are bad, because being good is hard.