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China is adding solar and wind faster than many of us realise: three charts

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Re: China is adding solar and wind faster than many of us realise: three charts

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They’re also adding coal plants faster than many of us realize.

Go away with your facts from our Green New World.

Doesn't matter.

Economy of scale will give china cheaper and saver energy on a scale and speed which will put them further.

Cheap energy means: Cheaper products, cheaper iron ore, cheaper everything.

It means cheap energy storage, which also implies cheap EVs.

It also will mean (if the coal thing is true) in the longer term cleaner air (when it overtakes coal), higher life expectensy and higher productivty.

While in parallel we in europe have had big issues with russia and energy dependency.

Re: China is adding solar and wind faster than many of us realise: three charts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Go away with your facts from our Green New World.

Doesn't matter. Economy of scale will give china cheaper and saver energy on a scale and speed which will put them further. Cheap energy means: Cheaper products, cheaper iron ore, cheaper everything. It means cheap energy storage, which also implies cheap EVs. It also will mean (if the coal thing is true) in the longer term cleaner air (when it overtakes coal), higher life expectensy and higher productivty. While in…

That's a theory on which whole Energiewende project was based on. Seeing that now Germans have on of the most expensive electricity in the Europe, we can safely assume that cheap + renewable energy does not come together.

Re: China is adding solar and wind faster than many of us realise: three charts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Go away with your facts from our Green New World.

Doesn't matter. Economy of scale will give china cheaper and saver energy on a scale and speed which will put them further. Cheap energy means: Cheaper products, cheaper iron ore, cheaper everything. It means cheap energy storage, which also implies cheap EVs. It also will mean (if the coal thing is true) in the longer term cleaner air (when it overtakes coal), higher life expectensy and higher productivty. While in…

Except it won't work. The intermittency problem of renewables doesn't make them cheaper - there is no low-cost solution to that. The intermittency makes energy more expensive. Further, their population is already shrinking. Labor costs will start to rise quite rapidly in Chain, making things more expensive.

Renewable penetration hasn't made energy cheaper anywhere where it is a significant portion of the supply grid.

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