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Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica Free on Every Raspberry Pi

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Without a Raspberry Pi, at least you can use the wolfram engine for free [0] and integrate with your applications, although without all the benefits of the wolfram notebooks environment. [0] https://www.wolfram.com/engine/

As long as your application is not commercial.

Indeed, but I believe that if one develop a commercial application that uses Wolfram language then they would think it is worth to pay for it.

Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica Free on Every Raspberry Pi

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So they don't cannibalize their institutional sales at universities.

Sure, that's why I say not just non-commercial but also individual.

People at the university would just 'individual' download it for non-commercial use.

Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica Free on Every Raspberry Pi

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I actually think you have a point. Linux is far less of a walled garden in principle . And it seems a lot of people are assuming "walled garden" is a statement from developers perspective (no cost license or difficulty in developing for platform). I think what you're saying though is that your choices and options are far easier and wider with windows as a regular user, than with Linux, and if so I see your point. I'v…

Yup! A walled garden isn't just about developer lock-in driven by financial incentives. As far as the end-user goes, if the choices provided outside of the garden are wholly impractical it might as well be walled in practice even if it's not in theory/principle.

This feels like a rabbit hole argument. So, down the rabbit hole we go!

Let's imagine for a minute that using Open Source or FOSS also implies feeding back into the ecosystem. "Normal users" should be feeding back into the ecosystem somehow which then implies some form of understanding of that ecosystem. It can be bug reports (which requires understanding enough to post a coherent bug report), bug fixes (which requires knowing a little more), project leadership (which requires a different skillset and perhaps technical knowledge), monetary contributions (which makes the software less "free")

My argument is, "Open Source doesn't get you past tanstaafl." The work to use it still needs to be done by someone. If you want to be a user of it and the thing you want to do isn't on the already-paved/easy-path then you need to get someone to pave that path for you or you need to understand how to do it yourself. That's the nature of the beast and has nothing to do with being a "walled garden."

Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica Free on Every Raspberry Pi

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A good niche for mathematica is finance: type in your equations, tell it what "type" your variables are, let it solve them. Let the machine get it right.

Do you have a good example of this beyond Black Scholes and with eg real world market data and picking a portfolio of ETFs, say?

Yes but I can't legally tell you (weird exotics and fixed income models with lots of daycounts that you'll make a mistake on are a hint)

Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica Free on Every Raspberry Pi

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What does it mean then that Windows is a walled garden? That it can only run Windows software? How is then Linux also not a walled garden?

Windows is slowly getting more walled. For example, it’s not possible anymore to freely define file type associations in the registry. Windows only enables the user to do so via a very limited UI, which for example doesn’t allow custom icons, command lines, or custom groupings or forwarding of associations. Someone reverse-engineered the protection to defeat it [1], but it’s still a pain. Another example is that it’s…

To play Devil's Advocate, I can see the reasoning behind that. Malware changing file associations behind the scenes is a fairly common occurence. Hell, even programs you want occasionally change file associations without your permission.

So putting protections in place to try and prevent that is ultimately a boon for most users.

Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica Free on Every Raspberry Pi

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They haven't made a 64-bit version for the Pi yet, and Mathematica is not a menu option when you setup 64-bit Raspberry Pi OS. The traditional 32-bit version is installable on 64-bit Raspberry Pi OS if you enable packages for the armhf architecture.

I wonder if anyone knows when the 64-bit version is coming? From Wolfram's point of view, keeping the binaries restricted to armhf might perhaps be taking the place of more onerous copy-protection or licensing features.

Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica Free on Every Raspberry Pi

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The fact it's free is really cool but the choice to limit this to Raspberry Pi is rather weird because Raspberry Pis are painfully slow (can't even navigate YouTube comfortably) and even fairly hard to acquire in the first place. They should rather make it free for all individual non-commercial tinkerer no matter the hardware they use. I believe this would ensure popularity sustainability and the raspberry-only way m…

You should be able to view a YouTube video on a Pi 4 with enough RAM, while running Mathematica in another window. With the newer hardware the performance problems should only come if you try to use 4k video or something.

Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica Free on Every Raspberry Pi

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Wine is just a few clicks away in most distros or go to https://www.winehq.org/ and follow the instructions there. It can run quite a bit of Windows software. I've just spent a pleasant few minutes playing 3D Pinball for Windows - Space Cadet,

In that vein, wouldn’t WSL then allow Linux software to run on Windows?

I don't know why you were downvoted because it's a perfectly reasonable question. The answer is not really, or rather the last time I tried it wasn't easy to get X windows running properly so you were stuck with just terminal based programs but that was a couple of years ago. Now I have switched entirely to Linux I'll have to leave it to others to describe the current state of affairs with WSL and X windows

Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica Free on Every Raspberry Pi

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In that vein, wouldn’t WSL then allow Linux software to run on Windows?

I don't know why you were downvoted because it's a perfectly reasonable question. The answer is not really, or rather the last time I tried it wasn't easy to get X windows running properly so you were stuck with just terminal based programs but that was a couple of years ago. Now I have switched entirely to Linux I'll have to leave it to others to describe the current state of affairs with WSL and X windows

I haven't used it, but in theory it seems to be fully supported, with screenshots in the help article showing several apps running, and instructions (however short) laid out for various apps like Gedit, GIMP, Chrome, even Nautilus: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/tutorials/gui-...

It seems to be as easy as installing a driver and then... installing the apps in the distro. That makes it even easier than Wine IMO.

To me, it seemed perfectly reasonable to call it the Windows equivalent to Wine but :shrug:

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