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Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica Free on Every Raspberry Pi

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The fact it's free is really cool but the choice to limit this to Raspberry Pi is rather weird because Raspberry Pis are painfully slow (can't even navigate YouTube comfortably) and even fairly hard to acquire in the first place. They should rather make it free for all individual non-commercial tinkerer no matter the hardware they use. I believe this would ensure popularity sustainability and the raspberry-only way m…

So they don't cannibalize their institutional sales at universities.

Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica Free on Every Raspberry Pi

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I feel about this the way I feel about "free" Windows when you buy a computer from a mainstream retailer. It's not worth the price, it's not a gift, it's just an adverstisement and a gateway to the walled garden. I have a normal Mathematica license and for the few times it's the right tool for the job I find myself reaching for something else anyway. I can almost always get things done with FOSS (usually within the p…

While I understand what you are saying, using Windows as an example is bad because Windows is not a walled garden. If you want examples of a walled garden, look at MacOS/iOS, Android (kind of), and arguably even the Linuxes (question of practicality).

Can tou tell that to Edge? Because it insists to become the default browser every now and then at my work.

Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica Free on Every Raspberry Pi

#113

The fact it's free is really cool but the choice to limit this to Raspberry Pi is rather weird because Raspberry Pis are painfully slow (can't even navigate YouTube comfortably) and even fairly hard to acquire in the first place. They should rather make it free for all individual non-commercial tinkerer no matter the hardware they use. I believe this would ensure popularity sustainability and the raspberry-only way m…

People did useful work with Mathematica on the computers of 35 years ago.

They had a tiny fraction of an RPi's compute. Maybe because interesting mathematics is more the product of interested mathematicians rather than hardware.

With Mathematica around for 35 years, there's evidence that it has a sustainable model with regard to popularity.

Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica Free on Every Raspberry Pi

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The zeroeth boundary is "what your conscience will enforce." The first boundary is "what Wolfram is willing to enforce". The second boundary is "what a judge is willing to enforce". Likely the 0th boundary will kick in before the other two. If too many people misuse this, Wolfram may decide it was a bad idea and end the program. In practical terms, an overwhelming percentage of revenue comes from large institutions.…

Also, since it's running on a Raspberry Pi, "what your patience will enforce," basically a performance limited version of the software.

it's an arm executable, so I've been wondering if it can be lifted over to run on Apple Silicon.

Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica Free on Every Raspberry Pi

#115

The fact it's free is really cool but the choice to limit this to Raspberry Pi is rather weird because Raspberry Pis are painfully slow (can't even navigate YouTube comfortably) and even fairly hard to acquire in the first place. They should rather make it free for all individual non-commercial tinkerer no matter the hardware they use. I believe this would ensure popularity sustainability and the raspberry-only way m…

So they don't cannibalize their institutional sales at universities.

Sure, that's why I say not just non-commercial but also individual.

Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica Free on Every Raspberry Pi

#117

The fact it's free is really cool but the choice to limit this to Raspberry Pi is rather weird because Raspberry Pis are painfully slow (can't even navigate YouTube comfortably) and even fairly hard to acquire in the first place. They should rather make it free for all individual non-commercial tinkerer no matter the hardware they use. I believe this would ensure popularity sustainability and the raspberry-only way m…

People did useful work with Mathematica on the computers of 35 years ago. They had a tiny fraction of an RPi's compute. Maybe because interesting mathematics is more the product of interested mathematicians rather than hardware. With Mathematica around for 35 years, there's evidence that it has a sustainable model with regard to popularity.

I knew real science stars who ran Mathematica on 486 with huge success. But that's a different story. This project targets hobbyists and kids educating themselves and this normally involves watching YouTube tutorials/lectures and googling information up. For some people this can be good and teach them patience, for many this will be an obstacle and divert them to alternatives. Mathematica is great but has keep the competition in mind. I am afraid it will decline heavily sooner or later.

Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica Free on Every Raspberry Pi

#118

The fact it's free is really cool but the choice to limit this to Raspberry Pi is rather weird because Raspberry Pis are painfully slow (can't even navigate YouTube comfortably) and even fairly hard to acquire in the first place. They should rather make it free for all individual non-commercial tinkerer no matter the hardware they use. I believe this would ensure popularity sustainability and the raspberry-only way m…

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Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica Free on Every Raspberry Pi

#119

The fact it's free is really cool but the choice to limit this to Raspberry Pi is rather weird because Raspberry Pis are painfully slow (can't even navigate YouTube comfortably) and even fairly hard to acquire in the first place. They should rather make it free for all individual non-commercial tinkerer no matter the hardware they use. I believe this would ensure popularity sustainability and the raspberry-only way m…

Without a Raspberry Pi, at least you can use the wolfram engine for free [0] and integrate with your applications, although without all the benefits of the wolfram notebooks environment.

[0] https://www.wolfram.com/engine/

Re: Wolfram Language and Mathematica Free on Every Raspberry Pi

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Linux is more like a walled garden than Windows? Maybe you have a different definition of walled garden or something...

Linux quickly becomes a quagmire of impracticality once you dare to step outside of the distro-provided or -recommended repositories, so much I would argue it's functionally a walled garden at that point. By contrast, on Windows you can install, run, upgrade, and downgrade whatever you want whenever you want however you want without sacrificing practicality.

Your inability to work with Linux distros does not make Linux distros walled gardens.

Your argument would be equivalent to me claiming that the closed source nature of the average Windows software makes the software itself a walled garden. Except in the case of a Linux distro you are entirely free to modify it in any way you want.

The fact that more things work out of the box without much effort and with a GUI on Windows does not make Linux distros walled gardens.

And pretending that Windows allows you to install and uninstall things at will without any side effects is just naive and makes me wonder if you've ever actually used Windows that much. I've had more problems with broken windows installations due to incompatibilities between different versions of Microsoft development tools and frameworks than I have ever had dealing with issues with building and installing software on Linux distributions.

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