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Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by koonsolo »

bmn__ wrote: post #104
koonsolo wrote: post #101

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Biologically that makes no sense. Having sex as a male basically has no consequences. Having sex as a woman can have huge consequences. Therefore, biologically the parent poster is correct.

Humans do not act on biological impulses and instincts alone, that's why your train of thought is not much aligned with reality. Women rationally know that contraception pills exist and are effective, meaning the choice of getting pregnant is in their hands; (promiscuous) sex apparently has no consequences. This informs their actions.

That might be true. But at least what you describe is not my experience. All women I know want serious relationships, not one-night stands (Belgium). Maybe in your part of the world or generation that is different.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by [deleted] »

bmn__ wrote: post #107
dorkwood wrote: post #47

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I thought I was a fairly attractive guy. I’ve had interest from attractive women in the past. On dating apps though? Crickets. I’ve had several friends vet my profile (who were quite brutal with their feedback, too) but I still only average around 1 match per week. If I’m supposed to be a somewhat attractive guy, I can imagine the vast majority of men must be getting no interest at all.

> I thought I was a fairly attractive guy. By sheer statistical chance alone, you are a normie (middle of the bell curve, where most people are) and overrate yourself. > I’ve had several friends vet my profile Seek out an unbiased attractiveness rating done by people who actually know the science, for example ratebywaffles. I bet that your friends received no training or sought to read the relevant sociology and psyc…

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Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by yucky »

csomar wrote: post #40
JesusLovesEwe wrote: post #22

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If you think the situation is any better for young women, you're in for a shock. From where I'm sitting, the propaganda targeting women is far, far more pervasive and destructive. Everything about their relationships - the why, when, who and how - is undermined in an alarming majority of our institutions. Date many and often with no inhibitions, "have fun", don't get "tied down", delay marriage and family or abstain…

Because, eh, it's true? Kids might be good for society but they are not for the particular woman/individual in question. These woman are making the right choice individually. I see lots of happy 35-45 woman doing brunches in mall. Something tells me they are not missing too much on the family bandwagon.

  > I see lots of happy 35-45 woman doing brunches in mall.
Ah yes, the Prosac Pose.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by xiphias2 »

koonsolo wrote: post #101
ldjkfkdsjnv wrote: post #48

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I actually think its the complete opposite. Alot of nice looking well kept women just want sex

Biologically that makes no sense. Having sex as a male basically has no consequences. Having sex as a woman can have huge consequences. Therefore, biologically the parent poster is correct.

It does: women has always has dual mating strategy (find a sexy partner to have a baby with and a sucker who will take care of the baby...if she's lucky it's the same person, but quite often that's not the biologically optimal behavior).

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by effingwewt »

justinclift wrote: post #85
throwaway892238 wrote: post #77

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Women in LATAM are also much more likely to get a boob job as teenagers (it was so common that until a law was passed preventing it, 30 percent of plastic surgeries in Colombia were on underage girls). LATAM cultures are in some ways more warm and welcoming, but in other ways more regressive/toxic, such as their gender roles and sexuality. Seems great to you because you're benefiting from it, but American women proba…

> but in other ways more regressive/toxic That's a bit unclear. Would you be ok to expand on that? :)

Not OP but am half Mexican with many Latin family members.

A big trend right now in Latin America is 'quiero toxico/a'(I want a toxic(person)) , they paste it all over their vehicles, clothing and whatnot.

You will see women wearing shirts that say 'soy toxica'(I'm toxic).

They literally want someone who hits them, gets jealous, all the bad stereotypes.

Having lived that myself, I firmly believe it's because they have never actually been with someone like that.

They think they want it till their car ends up destroyed, clothes on fire, or one/both in jail.

I just cannot fathom willing that stuff into your life, but some people are what's known as 'addicted to chaos'.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by xnx »

dorkwood wrote: post #47
ldjkfkdsjnv wrote: post #17

Will probably get downvoted for this. But I'm a very conventionally attractive guy with a good job in a major US city. I basically have an unlimited stream of dates through dating apps from women of all walks of life. Upwards of 20 - 50 matches a day if I really push it. People already know this, but I dont think they know how bad the schew is. Every young single woman is chasing the same few men and they dont care i…

I thought I was a fairly attractive guy. I’ve had interest from attractive women in the past. On dating apps though? Crickets. I’ve had several friends vet my profile (who were quite brutal with their feedback, too) but I still only average around 1 match per week. If I’m supposed to be a somewhat attractive guy, I can imagine the vast majority of men must be getting no interest at all.

How tall are you?

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by werkjohann »

JesusLovesEwe wrote: post #61
csomar wrote: post #40

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Because, eh, it's true? Kids might be good for society but they are not for the particular woman/individual in question. These woman are making the right choice individually. I see lots of happy 35-45 woman doing brunches in mall. Something tells me they are not missing too much on the family bandwagon.

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Why is the thought of other people finding happiness in a way different from you “gut-wrenching”? Such a strong emotional reaction to a lifestyle that has no direct impact on you doesn’t seem healthy.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by fiso64 »

klipt wrote: post #64
labster wrote: post #44

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I know people seem to see social factors in declining birth rate, but I mainly see economic causes. As population reduces, housing and employment become more available, meaning more people can afford to have children. A century ago more children meant more income, but now it means less. Reduce the marginal cost of children and demand will increase.

That sounds plausible, but almost everywhere in the world, wealth and fertility seem to be negatively correlated. Poor people have kids early and have more, while rich people delay and have few or none.

I'm wondering if these statistics adjust for age. Wealthier people are usually older and therefore less fertile. Also, there may be selection bias at play here since whoever is more wealthy is more likely to prioritize their career over family & children.

Re: Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

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Post by uptownfunk »

forgetfreeman wrote: post #14
uptownfunk wrote: post #2

Really troubling statistics if true. I suspect the lockdown has exacerbated this. Frankly I worry for my own young children. I almost wish there was a place to live where there was little to no social media, no chronic cell phone addiction, people out in nature, together, socializing, cooperating.

You literally just described the Amish.

I’m almost tempted to sign up. Is there a Hindu Amish?
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