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Re: Open Airport Map

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Post by ericpauley »

repiret wrote: post #75
the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn’t answer the question: what is wrong with the map? As a non pilot I can’t say that I find an airport diagram from the FAA more insightful: https://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/2302/00375AD.PDF

I am a pilot, and I compared the FAA diagram of SFO that you pointed out with the openairportmap.org one. Looking at the map itself: * Taxiway labels aren't very readable, and I need to zoom in quite a bit for them to even be consistently displayed. * For that matter, the yellow lines seem to cover a lot of things that aren't taxiways, and seem to extend into non-movement areas (areas outside the purview of ground co…

Clearly nobody is going to cancel their Foreflight subscription for this. But the point is that the map is short on aesthetic details because its goal is to allow visualization of a complex dataset, namely airport surface features.

Re: Open Airport Map

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Post by pastage »

repiret wrote: post #75
the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn’t answer the question: what is wrong with the map? As a non pilot I can’t say that I find an airport diagram from the FAA more insightful: https://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/2302/00375AD.PDF

I am a pilot, and I compared the FAA diagram of SFO that you pointed out with the openairportmap.org one. Looking at the map itself: * Taxiway labels aren't very readable, and I need to zoom in quite a bit for them to even be consistently displayed. * For that matter, the yellow lines seem to cover a lot of things that aren't taxiways, and seem to extend into non-movement areas (areas outside the purview of ground co…

Your objections can be split in three parts.

First, "this is not for pilots", it probably can be.

Second, the layout/design is not helpful, seems to be mostly nit picking (which is good).

Third, the data is wrong.

The data can be corrected on http://osm.org by anyone, so that means your first objection is true. The design and layout can of course be corrected over time, depending on how many people care about mapping/visualizing them. The question is can you land an airplane with this map, this will be tested in flight sims that will use the same data.

So I do not know the goal of this map, but I have entered data about airports in to Openstreetmap and I most certainly did not do it for pilots. This was ten years ago I see that the amount of data has grown incredibly, So there must be people that care about it. That makes me believe that all your objections will be solved. Except the first one I listed since we can't have an fully loaded passenger plane land based upon my data.

Re: Open Airport Map

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Post by wlonkly »

bhargav wrote: post #43
ecommerceguy wrote: post #31

Looks more like a cad drawing than a map. I'm sorry but as a rather prolific former cartographer (I've made thousands of maps for hundreds of clients) what is the goal of this map? Showing terminal locations? Where to park? Size relative to surroundings? Location of manholes? Noise compatibility?

This has all the information a pilot would need to take off and land from an airport. Airport maps are usually available for free in US but at least I have yet to find some for some Canadian airports. The Canadian organizations sell those. There are paid apps you can get. This looks like a good free alternative. Addendum: someone mentioned Airnav. Just to see the lack of open and up to date data available freely, loo…

It seems like whether or not it has what a pilot needs depends on how thorough the OpenStreetMap contributors have been for a particular airport. (As an extreme example, CYHZ in Halifax seems to be missing completely, but the tiny CYTN in Trenton, NS is diagrammed).

Re: Open Airport Map

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Post by philsnow »

ShakataGaNai wrote: post #67
tiffanyh wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s even an official Jeppesen map for the north pole https://ww2.jeppesen.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/north-po...

Oh my goodness, that is hilarious. Just 100% Easter eggs. I think my favorite is "If Dasher sick, reduce speed by 2 reindeer"

under naughty behavior change codes, "19 - being a hellion"

Re: Open Airport Map

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Post by lisper »

mdaniel wrote: post #62
lisper wrote: post #55

Very nice! But when I try to look at LAX it says: Couldn't find airport with ICAO code "KLAX". All other airports seem to work though, so this is a strange bug.

It's due to what appears to be a bogus error message in the response to https://openairportmap.org/api/airport/KLAX >: "remark": "runtime error: Query timed out in \"query\" at line 6 after 29 seconds." I say bogus error message because for sure that URL did not take 29 seconds to return (221ms according to Firefox). I'd guess the query is malformed and their api interprets the error as a "timeout" instead of "error"

How did you find that API link?

Re: Open Airport Map

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Post by habi »

rippercushions wrote: post #64
ShakataGaNai wrote: post #57

What is the end goal of this project? Mapping runways and taxiways isn't ... useful? At least in the United States if it's a field big enough for a K-designation, then there is an Airport Diagram published by the FAA. And therefor public domain. Ex: https://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/2302/00568ad.pdf Something like OpenStreetMap makes sense because there is no public domain published map of everything. I'm sure there is s…

As far as I can tell this is OpenStreetMap, but filtered to show just the airport data.

Yes. They announced it in the OSM community forum: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/announcement-openairpo...

Re: Open Airport Map

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Post by habi »

maxerickson wrote: post #12
ben_w wrote: post #8

Neat, but with the usual USA-centricism: Despite the map starting at Frankfurt (the one in the west of Germany), and me being in Berlin (the one in the east of Germany) the first result for "Berlin" was the one in New Hampshire, USA.

It isn't being US centric, the search only supports airport codes. Looks like the site was setup by a german (or at least someone that lives in Germany and speaks german).

Seems to, the first announcement in the OSM community forum was in German: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/vorstellung-openairpor...

Re: Open Airport Map

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Post by Daviey »

benjojo12 wrote: post #16
niklasrde wrote: post #10

I just spent 20 minutes flying to various airports I've been to in person. Curious to see space/gate/terminal efficiency and closeness from one central point at eg DUS and FRA with the evolution that is LHR. LUX and LCY are also interesting: comparable max passenger numbers of 4M-5M, LUX has 2x> as many weekend slots as LCY, presumably similar clientel (though LUX does more hub flights I reckon), and very different s…

LCY has a Saturday Noon to Sunday Noon curfew. It makes the life's of people like me who live near it much better! Even if it means that weekend flights from my nearest airport can be a pain

Out of interest, did you move into a property before or after the airport was built?

The reason I ask is that one of my local GA airports has constant pressure to reduce the movements from local residents, but the airport has been in frequent use since WWI so I can't understand why people move near an airport and then complain that there is an airport there.

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